So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

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  • notacon
    Registered User
    • Aug 2012
    • 32994

    #91
    Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

    Originally posted by jamze132 View Post
    We lost two starters…Poyer or Morse. And we’re gaining one in Milano.

    Can’t count White since he pretty much missed another season.
    Not only Milano....the Bills lost three of their biggest defensive stars in Matt Milano for 12 regular season games, Tre' White for 13 and DaQuan Jones for 10.

    For the KC game the Bills lost, they had Jones back but then lost starting CB Benford, starting WR2 Gabe Davis, with starting LB Bernard, starting CB Douglas starting NCB Johnson and starting P Martin hobbled by injuries.

    In 2023 the Bills had the fourth-most games lost by starters to injury on defense in the NFL with 46.

    While KC with the second-FEWEST games lost at only 27.

    Despite all those devastating injuries, the Bills STILL won the AFCE for the FOURTH consecutive time, and the playoffs the FIFTH consecutive time....the second longest streak in the NFL of consecutive playoff appearance (KC, of course is #1 with 9) and grabbed the #2 seed in the AFC.

    THAT SHOWS the Bills had as good a roster as any team in the NFL.

    KC's good fortune with so few injuries to starters last year is on top of the Chiefs having had an amazing run of good health in recent years. They lost the fewest games in the NFL to injury in 2022, the third fewest in 2021 and the 10th fewest in 2020. They were tied for 13th in both 2019 and 2018.


    Could that be because the Chiefs have a grass field as do two other teams in the division...while the Bills play on turf as well as two other teams in their division? Sure looks like it could be a HUGE factor.

    Here are the facts....including playoff games, the breakdown of field surface played on for each team....

    KC:

    2023 - 16 grass - 5 turf
    2022 - 16 grass - 4 turf
    2021 - 17 grass - 3 turf
    2020 - 16 grass - 3 turf
    2019 - 17 grass - 2 turf
    2018 - 16 grass - 2 turf

    Buffalo:

    2023 - 4 grass - 15 turf
    2022 - 4 grass - 16 turf
    2021 - 5 grass - 14 turf
    2020 - 7 grass - 12 turf
    2019 - 4 grass - 13 turf
    2018 - 3 grass - 13 turf


    Total the past six seasons:

    KC - 98 grass - 19 turf.....83% of games played on grass

    Buffalo - 27 grass - 83 turf....75% games played on turf.


    The FACTS are undeniable.

    Opi is going to **** on the Bills and their roster no matter what. He does so every single year. EVERY. SINGLE. YEAR.

    It's a LONG way until opening day 2024 with FA just starting and the draft a month away.. The Bills WILL BE Super Bowl contenders. The core of players is as good (or better) than every other team in the NFL....led by the 2nd best QB in the NFL.

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    • OpIv37
      Acid Douching Asswipe
      • Sep 2002
      • 101230

      #92
      Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

      Originally posted by Ed View Post
      You seem to be the only one that refuses to get it.

      There is no talent gap.

      The Bills will create the space they need and add talent.

      As you said, it's not complicated.
      There is absolutely a talent gap and there is no way the Bills can clear enough cap to fix it. Cap hits have consequences. When they signed Miller, they gambled that we’d get a SB before this cap nightmare hit and they lost. Now we’re going to take a step back and waste a couple years of Josh’s prime fixing it.

      No one would care if they got a SB, but they didn’t.
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      • OpIv37
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        • Sep 2002
        • 101230

        #93
        Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

        Originally posted by Mad Max View Post
        That’s like politely asking pigeons to stop pooping on your car. It’s both what they do and enjoy.
        It’s more like me pointing out that there’s pigeon poop on the car and everyone else saying “no there isn’t! Stop trolling!”
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        • OpIv37
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          • Sep 2002
          • 101230

          #94
          Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

          Originally posted by Woodman View Post
          It's a proven fact that rookie draft picks can start and win Super Bowls no.

          The Chiefs are the perfect example of rookies making the difference in winning Super Bowls.

          We need a good draft ..... and we need to allow the rookies the opportunity to be the difference.
          Arrgh. Every ****ing year with the draft. Guess what? The Chiefs are already better than us. They get to draft too, and you just said they’re good at winning with rookies.

          I don’t know why no one acknowledges that our opponents can improve through the draft too.

          And talking about needing a good draft… that’s drought era talk. We’re supposed to be competing for a SB, not hoping a bunch of rookies can come in and fix everything.
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          • Ginger Vitis
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            • Feb 2009
            • 3451

            #95
            Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

            I'm looking forward to when OPIv tries to convince us all miami is better than buffalo right now lol

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            • notacon
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              • Aug 2012
              • 32994

              #96
              Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

              Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
              Arrgh. Every ****ing year with the draft. Guess what? The Chiefs are already better than us. They get to draft too, and you just said they’re good at winning with rookies.

              I don’t know why no one acknowledges that our opponents can improve through the draft too.

              And talking about needing a good draft… that’s drought era talk. We’re supposed to be competing for a SB, not hoping a bunch of rookies can come in and fix everything.
              No, they are not. Patrick Mahomes is better than Josh Allen, but he has every potential to equal PM...while the rest of each teem is fairly equal when seen as a whole.

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              • OpIv37
                Acid Douching Asswipe
                • Sep 2002
                • 101230

                #97
                Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

                Originally posted by notacon View Post
                No, they are not. Patrick Mahomes is better than Josh Allen, but he has every potential to equal PM...while the rest of each teem is fairly equal when seen as a whole.
                Lmao. Who’s our Kelce? We don’t have anyone on O nearly as explosive as him. And that’s just one position. It’s nuts to look at the Bills and think we’re as talented as they are.
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                • TacklingDummy
                  Unreachable Douche
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 71725

                  #98
                  Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

                  Originally posted by Ginger Vitis View Post
                  I'm looking forward to when OPIv tries to convince us all miami is better than buffalo right now lol
                  With all their bloodletting they will be lucky to finish ahead of the Pats.

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                  • notacon
                    Registered User
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 32994

                    #99
                    Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

                    Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                    Lmao. Who’s our Kelce? We don’t have anyone on O nearly as explosive as him. And that’s just one position. It’s nuts to look at the Bills and think we’re as talented as they are.
                    You are so narrow minded. What I said was "...the rest of each teem is fairly equal when seen as a whole"

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                    • sukie
                      Seriously?
                      • Sep 2012
                      • 21507

                      Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

                      Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                      Arrgh. Every ****ing year with the draft. Guess what? The Chiefs are already better than us. They get to draft too, and you just said they’re good at winning with rookies.

                      I don’t know why no one acknowledges that our opponents can improve through the draft too.

                      And talking about needing a good draft… that’s drought era talk. We’re supposed to be competing for a SB, not hoping a bunch of rookies can come in and fix everything.
                      Op, what was your preseason win loss record for Buffalo the last 2 preseasons? Just curious. 1 believe I was 12 wins both years.

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                      • OpIv37
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                        • Sep 2002
                        • 101230

                        Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

                        Originally posted by sukie View Post
                        Op, what was your preseason win loss record for Buffalo the last 2 preseasons? Just curious. 1 believe I was 12 wins both years.
                        Honestly don’t remember but I’ll admit it was way less than what they actually did.
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                        • OpIv37
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                          • Sep 2002
                          • 101230

                          Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

                          Originally posted by notacon View Post
                          You are so narrow minded. What I said was "...the rest of each teem is fairly equal when seen as a whole"
                          Ok. That’s simply wrong, especially after the cap cuts and losing Floyd.
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                          • OpIv37
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                            • Sep 2002
                            • 101230

                            Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

                            Since we lost to the Chiefs, the following players are no longer on the roster:

                            Morse
                            Poyer
                            White
                            Floyd
                            Davis

                            Now, I'm not arguing that these were the wrong moves. Floyd and Davis were FA's who got overpaid. Poyer, White and Morse were no longer playing up to their contracts.

                            But the fact remains that we currently have no one on the roster equal or better than the guys we lost (you can argue that Douglas replaces White but the original intent was for them to compliment each other). We have a mere $880,000 in cap space according to Sportrac- https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/cap/.

                            Some have argued that there was no talent gap between us and the Chiefs (which is absurd). But, even if there wasn't, there is now. And, it's not just the Chiefs. The Bengals with a healthy Burrow and probably the Ravens are better than us. Jacksonville and Houston are rising fast.

                            Forget about improving this off-season. It's going to be hard just to get back where we were.
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                            • notacon
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                              • Aug 2012
                              • 32994

                              Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

                              Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                              Ok. That’s simply wrong, especially after the cap cuts and losing Floyd.
                              You said the same crap last year pimping Miami (you said the same about the Jets as well) on how they got SO MUCH better than the Bills, while (incorrectly) opining that the Bills got worse, and would not be able to compete with the Fins.

                              You kept up that nonsense through much of last year...and LO' and BEHOLD...you were WRONG, WRONG WRONG.

                              Here is just a few example of your sourpuss rubbish...


                              Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                              Mark my words. Miami wins the Div, ceiling for the Bills is a wild card and first round exit.
                              Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                              Miami will keep winning. Everyone says they’re a paper tiger and they can’t beat anyone good yet they just keep winning. It’s their div this year.
                              Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                              Too late to think about the Div. Wild card is still a possibility.
                              Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                              Did anyone actually watch Dallas? They’re gonna smoke us.
                              Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                              A lot of people here seem way too confident about beating the Cowboys.

                              Their O is clicking and, despite winning the game against KC, our banged-up D has been a liability (look at the Philly game).

                              I was able to attend the Jets game in Dallas earlier this year. Parsons was a wrecking ball. He’s going to have Josh running for his life all game.
                              Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                              Winning Sunday is nit happening. Too many people on this board are dismissing Dallas for no reason. Dax is going to shred this D.
                              Some reminders....

                              The Bills swept Miami, blowing them out in Buffalo, and when the division on the line, beat them in Miami with a convincing win, shutting them out in the 2nd half while outscoring them 14-0....finishing the year with a 5 game win streak...and 6 of the last seven.

                              The Bills WON the AFCE while MIAMI WAS "a wild card and first round exit."

                              Dallas DID NOT "smoke us" The Bills BLEW OUT DALLAS, BIG TIME.

                              Dax DID NOT "shred this D" and Parsons did NOT "going to have Josh running for his life all game."

                              Sorry, but your record of ineptitude and constant ****ting over the Bills year after year after year makes your 'the sky is falling' fear mongering the LEAST credible bullcrap on this site.

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                              • OpIv37
                                Acid Douching Asswipe
                                • Sep 2002
                                • 101230

                                Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

                                None of what I said before changes the fact that we lost talent and don’t have any cap space to make it up. Making it about me won’t change reality.
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