So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

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  • notacon
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    • Aug 2012
    • 32999

    Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

    Originally posted by sukie View Post
    Op, what was your preseason win loss record for Buffalo the last 2 preseasons? Just curious. 1 believe I was 12 wins both years.
    Opi predicted the Bills would have 9-8 record in 2023.

    I predicted 12-5, with the worst possible 11-6.

    The 2022 predictions are lost to the data disaster, but I'm pretty sure that Opi predicted 9-8 for that year as well.

    I predicted 13 wins.

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    • notacon
      Registered User
      • Aug 2012
      • 32999

      Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

      Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
      None of what I said before changes the fact that we lost talent and don’t have any cap space to make it up. Making it about me won’t change reality.
      Your posts show you have no idea what "reality" is. Just. Stop.

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      • Oaf
        Do you read what you write?
        • Jun 2007
        • 6151

        Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

        Noty, what about CIN (beat us), JAX (beat us), BAL (toss up)?

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        • OpIv37
          Acid Douching Asswipe
          • Sep 2002
          • 101232

          Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

          Originally posted by notacon View Post
          Your posts show you have no idea what "reality" is. Just. Stop.
          it is a FACT that we lost players. It is a FACT that we don't have any replacements who are equal or better to the guys we lost currently on the roster. It is a FACT that we only have $880k in cap space. That's reality, and my posts don't have the power to change it.
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          • sukie
            Seriously?
            • Sep 2012
            • 21509

            Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

            Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
            None of what I said before changes the fact that we lost talent and don’t have any cap space to make it up. Making it about me won’t change reality.
            We also lost slowing aging talent. It’s not like we lost Tre, Poyer, Hyde, and Morse in their prime. If they all somehow stayed we would be worse. Toss in Gabe as well.

            You either change or get worse.

            the importance of your facts is what is in question especially given you dire predictions based on those facts the last couple of years.

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            • OpIv37
              Acid Douching Asswipe
              • Sep 2002
              • 101232

              Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

              Originally posted by sukie View Post
              We also lost slowing aging talent. It’s not like we lost Tre, Poyer, Hyde, and Morse in their prime. If they all somehow stayed we would be worse. Toss in Gabe as well.

              You either change or get worse.

              the importance of your facts is what is in question especially given you dire predictions based on those facts the last couple of years.
              Yes, they were slowing, aging talent. We still don't have anyone equal or better. We still don't have cap space to replace them.
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              • Typ0
                honey pie
                • Jul 2002
                • 32593

                Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

                Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                it is a

                1. FACT that we lost players. It is a
                2. FACT that we don't have any replacements who are equal or better to the guys we lost currently on the roster.
                3. It is a FACT that we only have $880k in cap space.


                That's reality, and my posts don't have the power to change it.
                1 & 3 are facts.

                2 is not a fact. It is arbitrary and can't be proven. Not a fact.

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                • Typ0
                  honey pie
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 32593

                  Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

                  Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                  Yes, they were slowing, aging talent. We still don't have anyone equal or better. We still don't have cap space to replace them.
                  Most of these guys we are betting off not having....if anything we should have done a better job of staying younger in the first place.

                  It is not that this all can't be worked through anyway ... but it all culminates in the idea that other teams have more resources at their disposal than we do right now. That is the thing that is going to hurt.

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                  • OpIv37
                    Acid Douching Asswipe
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 101232

                    Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

                    Originally posted by Typ0 View Post
                    1 & 3 are facts.

                    2 is not a fact. It is arbitrary and can't be proven. Not a fact.
                    ok.... if we have better players, why weren't they on the field during the season?
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                    • Typ0
                      honey pie
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 32593

                      Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

                      Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                      ok.... if we have better players, why weren't they on the field during the season?
                      It is just that it is an opinion that puts one player 'better' than the other. It can't be proven hence is not a fact. The definition of fact is something that can be seen, examined and proven.

                      So you can prove Josh Allen is #1 on the depth chart because you can see the depth chart and he's listed #1 and Trubisky is #2. That Allen is the #1 QB is a fact.

                      But Allen is a 'better' QB than Trubisky? You can't prove that without first talking a great deal about how 'better' is defined and then constraining the argument to that definition. And everyone party to the argument would have to agree on how 'better' was being defined unanimously before anything could be proven and even the proof would be constrained to this particular argument so it isn't even a global 'fact' it kind of ends up being something everyone agreed to make up.

                      You can't just call things 'facts' because you feel strongly they are accurate.

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                      • OpIv37
                        Acid Douching Asswipe
                        • Sep 2002
                        • 101232

                        Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

                        Originally posted by Typ0 View Post
                        It is just that it is an opinion that puts one player 'better' than the other. It can't be proven hence is not a fact. The definition of fact is something that can be seen, examined and proven.

                        So you can prove Josh Allen is #1 on the depth chart because you can see the depth chart and he's listed #1 and Trubisky is #2. That Allen is the #1 QB is a fact.

                        But Allen is a 'better' QB than Trubisky? You can't prove that without first talking a great deal about how 'better' is defined and then constraining the argument to that definition. And everyone party to the argument would have to agree on how 'better' was being defined unanimously before anything could be proven and even the proof would be constrained to this particular argument so it isn't even a global 'fact' it kind of ends up being something everyone agreed to make up.

                        You can't just call things 'facts' because you feel strongly they are accurate.
                        Fair enough, it's not truly an objective fact. But it's also not unreasonable to assume that if we had better guys, they would have been on the field.
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                          honey pie
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 32593

                          Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

                          Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                          Fair enough, it's not truly an objective fact. But it's also not unreasonable to assume that if we had better guys, they would have been on the field.
                          I don't know. If a better guy makes a mistake McDermott loves to keep him off the field. Unless his name is Josh Allen in which case his **** don't stink and he has different rules.

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                          • notacon
                            Registered User
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 32999

                            Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

                            Originally posted by Oaf View Post
                            Noty, what about CIN (beat us), JAX (beat us), BAL (toss up)?
                            So what?

                            There has not been an undefeated team in FIFTY ONE freakin' years. I was still in high school then, close to TWENTY YEARS before you were born.

                            Only ONE OTHER team has gone undefeated in the regular season (not winning a Super Bowl, hence NOT "undefeated season") SIXTEEN years ago, when you were still a clueless teenager.

                            Virtually EVERY NFL teams loses games, every year. BFD.

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                            • OpIv37
                              Acid Douching Asswipe
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 101232

                              Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

                              Originally posted by notacon View Post
                              So what?

                              There has not been an undefeated team in FIFTY ONE freakin' years. I was still in high school then, close to TWENTY YEARS before you were born.

                              Only ONE OTHER team has gone undefeated in the regular season (not winning a Super Bowl, hence NOT "undefeated season") SIXTEEN years ago, when you were still a clueless teenager.

                              Virtually EVERY NFL teams loses games, every year. BFD.
                              "We CAN beat them, we just didn't!"

                              Wow, what a crappy response.
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                              • notacon
                                Registered User
                                • Aug 2012
                                • 32999

                                Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

                                Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                                it is a FACT that we lost players. It is a FACT that we don't have any replacements who are equal or better to the guys we lost currently on the roster. It is a FACT that we only have $880k in cap space. That's reality, and my posts don't have the power to change it.
                                It is a FACT that your predictions of doom and gloom are WRONG almost all the time.

                                The NFL league year has not even started yet, FA has not even officially started yet, the draft is a month away and you are already crying that the SKY IS FALLING because "we don't have any replacements who are equal or better to the guys we lost currently on the roster." which is say SO WHAT????

                                It ain't over until it's over. Which is something you can't seem to get through your thick, narrow minded, insanely pessimistic head. And why your awful and stupid, short sighted, wildly WRONG predictions that I quoted above prove that you have NO IDEA what you are talking about and are the LEAST reliable narrator of "reality"

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