So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

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  • OpIv37
    Acid Douching Asswipe
    • Sep 2002
    • 101230

    Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

    Originally posted by Ginger Vitis View Post
    OPIAN logic " bills over the cap.. cut players... bills are worse off" " other nfl teams over the cap... cut players.. they will be fine"

    At this point in time OPIV thinks the dolphins are in better shape than the bills
    I didn’t comment on the Dolphins or any other team. Stop making **** up.
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    • OpIv37
      Acid Douching Asswipe
      • Sep 2002
      • 101230

      Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

      Originally posted by Mad Max View Post
      Epenesa only had an absurdly low 36% snap count. Floyd had 53%.

      As a reference Khalil Mack, Nick Bosa, Myles Garrett, Maxx Crosby all had at least 69%. Crosby had 95% and Mack and Garret both had over 76%.

      AJ is young, healthy and productive. There’s no reason why he couldn’t double his snap count and mostly takeover for Floyd. Groot and any combo of the remaining Ends take the rest. It’s not that serious bro.

      FYI AJ has stated he’s looking for more snaps and sacks (sorry the link is behind a paywall)
      Ok. He can play more snaps. Doesn’t mean he can do it as well as Floyd. And if Epenesa is taking Floyd’s snaps, who takes Epenesa’s 36%?

      And of Epenesa is better, why did he get fewer snaps. This is drought-era “logic”: we don’t need to add talent! We will get better through player improvement!
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      • Mad Max
        Fortes Fortuna Adiuvat
        • Mar 2003
        • 6698

        Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

        Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
        Ok. He can play more snaps. Doesn’t mean he can do it as well as Floyd. And if Epenesa is taking Floyd’s snaps, who takes Epenesa’s 36%?

        And of Epenesa is better, why did he get fewer snaps. This is drought-era “logic”: we don’t need to add talent! We will get better through player improvement!
        I’m not going to teach you simple math here (apparently another thing outside of prognostication that you’re not very good at).

        You never have any facts/data to back up your feelings. Even though your nemesis is usually tldr at least he presents data. Your “data” only ever comes out of your posterior.

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        • Woodman
          Legendary Zoner
          • Apr 2014
          • 65888

          Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

          Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
          have no cap space to replace them.
          how about now?

          “It breaks your heart when someone leaves and you don’t know why.”

          "It may be raining but there's a rainbow above you"


          Former President Donald Trump early Thursday touted the results of a new NPR/PBSNewsHour/Marist poll showing him ahead of President Joe Biden by 8 percentage points among independents.

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          • Typ0
            honey pie
            • Jul 2002
            • 32592

            Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

            It is most amusing watching all you folks banter back and fourth through your tunnel vision. Both sides of the argument!

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            • Mad Max
              Fortes Fortuna Adiuvat
              • Mar 2003
              • 6698

              Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

              Originally posted by Typ0 View Post
              It is most amusing watching all you folks banter back and fourth through your tunnel vision. Both sides of the argument!
              It’s the interwebs man!

              Where the goal is to win arguments (in your own mind) or at least get the last word in against people whom you’ve never met!

              not gonna lie I used to be one of those donkeys lol…then I got a life.

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              • jamze132
                Don’t hate…
                • Jun 2003
                • 29295

                Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

                Originally posted by notacon View Post
                The "drivel" is mostly from YOU. The "facts" you cite are mostly not very important. For example, you ignore "facts" when you posted this in another thread...




                Which illustrates your massive anti-Bills bias and undeniable blind spots.

                First of all, as I responded to that specious (read: false) claim with "Uhhhhhh.....who said that ? Are you making **** up again???"

                NO ONE is saying "Miami lost Wilkins- ha! They suck now!". The FACTS are that Miami lost a LOT more than WIlkins and a LOT more than the Bills.

                NBC Sports has a running update on PTF's Top 100 Free agents.

                Miami's update on both losses of "Top 100" FA and other significant players...

                9. Dolphins defensive tackle Christian Wilkins (Agreed to four-year deal with Raiders on March 11.) - HUGE STARTER LOSS.
                23. Dolphins offensive guard Robert Hunt (Agreed to five-year contract with Panthers on March 11.) - HUGE STARTER LOSS
                30. Dolphins cornerback Xavien Howard - released 3/13/24 - significant STARTER loss
                33. Dolphins center/guard Connor Williams most likely gone- Signed Aaron Brewer 3/12 - soon to be significant STARTER loss
                43. Dolphins edge Andrew Van Ginkel (Agreed to sign with the Vikings on March 11.) - significant STARTER loss
                62. Dolphins safety DeShon Elliott signed with Steelers 3/14/24 - significant loss

                DT Raekwon Davis - 2023 opening day starter - signs with Colts 3/12 - significant STARTER loss
                DE Emmanuel Ogbah - released 2/23/24 - significant STARTER loss
                S Brandon Jones - signed by Denver 3/14/24 - significant loss
                LB Jerome Baker - released 3/5/24 - significant loss

                The Bills, on the other hand, (so far) have lost only two players in the "Top 100" FA....

                38. Bills edge Leonard Floyd (Agreed to two-year deal with 49ers on March 11.)
                74. Bills center Mitch Morse (Agreed to two-year deal with the Jaguars on March 11.)

                Leo Floyd's able replacement is already on the team in Epenesa and the Bills smartly signed him to a new contract.

                Morse's able replacement is also already on the team in McGovern, as the Bills also smartly restructured his contract.

                The other "starters", they lost were either damaged goods, at the end of their careers (Tre' White & Poyer) or badly under performing (Gabe Davis).

                Miami has been picking up some of Buffalo's cast offs. The paltry $2M to get Poyer illustrates how little value he has in the NFL today.

                Miami is losing critical players left and right. While the Bills have been strategic in who they let walk and who they decide to keep. Every one of the moves makes perfect sense and bode well for the Bills going forward.

                These are the "facts", but you are too narrow minded, and your anti-Bills colored glasses have your myopia preventing you from seeing reality, ignoring the fact that there is a long way to go until opening day 2024, and the roster is NO WHERE CLOSE to being completed.

                Yeah...your "fact" that the Bills have "lost multiple starters and have no cap space to replace them" is mostly irrelevant.
                OMG how sad is your life that you have to go researching another poster’s history and then write a thesis about it

                It’s a ****ing message board where it’s ok to have differences in opinion. You’ll NEVER understand that and your posts suck.

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                • Typ0
                  honey pie
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 32592

                  Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

                  Originally posted by Mad Max View Post
                  It’s the interwebs man!

                  Where the goal is to win arguments (in your own mind) or at least get the last word in against people whom you’ve never met!

                  not gonna lie I used to be one of those donkeys lol…then I got a life.
                  I would suggest people just want to be heard more and when their narcissism perceives they are not being heard correctly things start becoming very defensive and combative. Like, the amount of denial and projection going on is profound. It's not denial of someone's opinion it is the sometimes self centered belief one's opinion is being devalued. Other times it actually is the other persons opinion being devalued phew what a slippery slope!

                  Maybe some day I can have a life of my very own but in the mean time I don't mind people watching and will keep doing it after the life (whatever that is).

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                  • notacon
                    Registered User
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 32994

                    Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

                    Originally posted by jamze132 View Post
                    OMG how sad is your life that you have to go researching another poster’s history and then write a thesis about it

                    It’s a ****ing message board where it’s ok to have differences in opinion. You’ll NEVER understand that and your posts suck.
                    It's not a "thesis" it's called discussing the subject at hand (responding to other's opinions) with my well reasoned take supported by research, facts and evidence with a lot of specificity.

                    Something that you seem to be really bad at. I take your opinion that my posts "suck" as a MAJOR complement because you seem to have no idea how to compose a compelling post.

                    As what has been your mission lately, you barge into this thread with little of substance or value to add to the subject at hand, but you seem rather seem obsessed with ME and the way I post, ignoring the substance which is rich with details, common sense and simple logic..

                    You do not seem capable of actually responding (or offering up any intelligent rebuttal at all) to the common sense intelligent things I write.

                    I am living rent free in your head and it's a lonely place.

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                    • notacon
                      Registered User
                      • Aug 2012
                      • 32994

                      Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

                      Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                      I didn’t read that whole thing but I can’t take you seriously when you say things like Epenesa is Floyd’s replacement.

                      Last year we had both. It’s a rotational position. It works best when there are multiple talented players who can spell each other. Now we only have one of them, so that’s a problem.

                      Also, if Epenesa replaces Floyd, who replaces Epenesa?

                      It’s insane homer “logic.”

                      You have no idea what "homer “logic.”" is.

                      Once again, your rush to **** on the Bills has you caught looking foolish.

                      Gabe Davis has just been UPGRADED by signing Curtis Samuel.

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                      • OpIv37
                        Acid Douching Asswipe
                        • Sep 2002
                        • 101230

                        Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

                        Originally posted by notacon View Post
                        You have no idea what "homer “logic.”" is.

                        Once again, your rush to **** on the Bills has you caught looking foolish.

                        Gabe Davis has just been UPGRADED by signing Curtis Samuel.
                        Ok. Last time I checked, Curtis Samuel doesn’t play C, DL or DB. And Washington fans- and I know a lot of them because I lived in the DC area for over a decade- say he was a disappointment, much like Gabe was last year, so your homerism shows yet again.
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                        • OpIv37
                          Acid Douching Asswipe
                          • Sep 2002
                          • 101230

                          Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

                          Originally posted by Mad Max View Post
                          Epenesa only had an absurdly low 36% snap count. Floyd had 53%.

                          As a reference Khalil Mack, Nick Bosa, Myles Garrett, Maxx Crosby all had at least 69%. Crosby had 95% and Mack and Garret both had over 76%.

                          AJ is young, healthy and productive. There’s no reason why he couldn’t double his snap count and mostly takeover for Floyd. Groot and any combo of the remaining Ends take the rest. It’s not that serious bro.

                          FYI AJ has stated he’s looking for more snaps and sacks (sorry the link is behind a paywall)
                          Also one thing I forgot in my initial response to this: those guys get that snap count cuz they earned it. If Epenesa had their talent, he’d get the snaps.

                          And the point here isn’t to **** on Epenesa. He’s fine as a rotational DT. But us losing Floyd doesn’t magically make him capable or deserving of 69% of the snaps.
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                          • Woodman
                            Legendary Zoner
                            • Apr 2014
                            • 65888

                            Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

                            Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                            Ok. Last time I checked, Curtis Samuel doesn’t play C, DL or DB. And Washington fans- and I know a lot of them because I lived in the DC area for over a decade- say he was a disappointment, much like Gabe was last year, so your homerism shows yet again.
                            Washington was the disappointment.

                            “It breaks your heart when someone leaves and you don’t know why.”

                            "It may be raining but there's a rainbow above you"


                            Former President Donald Trump early Thursday touted the results of a new NPR/PBSNewsHour/Marist poll showing him ahead of President Joe Biden by 8 percentage points among independents.

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                            • notacon
                              Registered User
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 32994

                              Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

                              Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                              Ok. Last time I checked, Curtis Samuel doesn’t play C, DL or DB. And Washington fans- and I know a lot of them because I lived in the DC area for over a decade- say he was a disappointment, much like Gabe was last year, so your homerism shows yet again.
                              You mean sourpuss fans like you in DC area for over a decade- say he was a disappointment?!?!? So what?

                              Jesus. You whined that "...we lost multiple starters and have no cap space to replace them."But, yet, we've "replaced" almost all of the of the starters already.


                              Your lame premise has already been disproved by reality. While ignoring the fact that who YOU considered the Bills biggest threat in the AFCE has been decimated by quality starters left and right....MUCH worse than the quality of players the Bills have moved on

                              We already have a replacement at C, McGovern is little fall off from Morse....but younger.

                              We retained the best two DL in Jones and Oliver.

                              Floyd has been replaced with Epenesa...younger with little drop off. Floyd noticeably dropped off as the season progressed. The expectation that Von Miller will be closer to his all-pro self after more time to heal is more likely than not.

                              Tre' White was replaced a while ago. He has barely been a reliable starter the past three years. Douglas is more than able. Benford is young and only getting better. Crapping over Elam at this point in his young career is short sighted at best.

                              Samuel is a clear upgrade from Davis. Does not mean the Bills will stop there. Drafting a WR is almost a given. And there are plenty that are excellent, ready to step in for substantial contribution. Shakir is only getting better and better. Kincaid is a budding star.

                              S is a an issue, but Poyer, even if he stayed was already an issue. His fall off has been noticeable. That's why he could only get closer to vet minimum than any a quality starter S offer.

                              The drafts is still to come. After June 1 and $10M in cap space is available because of the Tre' White (smart) cut, means more talent can come in.

                              Every team has a 25% turnover in roster every year. This team is FAR from formed. Yet, you **** on them with reckless abandon.

                              All of this is not "homerism" it's reality.

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                              • jamze132
                                Don’t hate…
                                • Jun 2003
                                • 29295

                                Re: So where do we stand after today's bloodletting?

                                Originally posted by notacon View Post
                                It's not a "thesis" it's called discussing the subject at hand (responding to other's opinions) with my well reasoned take supported by research, facts and evidence with a lot of specificity.

                                Something that you seem to be really bad at. I take your opinion that my posts "suck" as a MAJOR complement because you seem to have no idea how to compose a compelling post.

                                As what has been your mission lately, you barge into this thread with little of substance or value to add to the subject at hand, but you seem rather seem obsessed with ME and the way I post, ignoring the substance which is rich with details, common sense and simple logic..

                                You do not seem capable of actually responding (or offering up any intelligent rebuttal at all) to the common sense intelligent things I write.

                                I am living rent free in your head and it's a lonely place.


                                Do you hear yourself? You’re the most narcissistic poster this board has ever seen! It’s my civic duty to call your BS out, especially when you’re calling other posters out for having a different opinion than you. Isn’t their a Reddit thread somewhere you can play in?

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