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    Von renegotiated

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    Re: Von renegotiated

    Quote Originally Posted by YardRat View Post
    Saves about $8mil per reports
    This is great news, Von wants to win.

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    Re: Von renegotiated

    Paycut?

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    Re: Von renegotiated

    restructure Josh and they'll be about 10 million under.

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    Re: Von renegotiated

    It's a payout.. not a restructure

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    Re: Von renegotiated

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    The Bills and pass rusher Von Miller agreed to a renegotiated contract, per source.

    The deal has a base value of $8.855M in 2024, with the chance to make up to $20M with incentives (up from $17.5M under the old terms).

    The move saves Buffalo $8.645M in 2024 salary cap space.

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    Re: Von renegotiated

    Quote Originally Posted by Ginger Vitis View Post
    It's a payout.. not a restructure


    Do you mean pay cut? Never heard of a pay out. ?

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    Re: Von renegotiated

    Quote Originally Posted by Novacane View Post
    Do you mean pay cut? Never heard of a pay out. ?
    Paycut

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    Re: Von renegotiated

    I think they just shifted a bunch of money into the not likely to be earned incentive category which doesn't count against the cap. Based on last years stats, you could probably have it super low like 2 sacks or 7 tackles or something. I think then any incentives earned, go on next years cap. It is a way to save now without having to tie us to Von further down the line.

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    Re: Von renegotiated

    Quote Originally Posted by mightysimi View Post
    I think they just shifted a bunch of money into the not likely to be earned incentive category which doesn't count against the cap. Based on last years stats, you could probably have it super low like 2 sacks or 7 tackles or something. I think then any incentives earned, go on next years cap. It is a way to save now without having to tie us to Von further down the line.
    let’s just hope we collectively want to be tied to Von further down

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    Re: Von renegotiated

    Breakdown

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    Re: Von renegotiated

    I want to know how much this will hurt us in future years.

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    Re: Von renegotiated

    Quote Originally Posted by Canadian'eh! View Post
    I want to know how much this will hurt us in future years.
    Good point. I wonder if they added void years.
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    Re: Von renegotiated

    Quote Originally Posted by Canadian'eh! View Post
    I want to know how much this will hurt us in future years.
    Some fine print on Von's original contract:

    • $45M guaranteed at signing (signing bonus + 2022 salary + 2023 salary + 2023 roster bonus + $10.71M of 2024 salary)
    • Remaining $6.435M of 2024 salary fully guarantees 03/18/2024

    So basically if we don't cut him - which we all know we can't realistically, in 4 days, Von's base salary for 2024 (10.71 + 6.435M) are guaranteed.

    The renegotiation is take that literally guaranteed 17.145M 2024 salary into 1) a 7M signing bonus (so all paid now), 2) a 1.5M salary (will be paid in season but I'd have to believe the guarantee clause stands), 3) 8.645M reachable incentives (something like games played, tackles made, sacks) and 4) around 2.855M hard to reach inventives (something like NFL MVP, superbowl MVP, voted to Pro Bowl etc.).

    Into his pocket this year 7+1.5 for sure and likely additional 5.25 from the 8.45 incentive for a total 13.75 in 2024 vs 17.145 if nothing happened.

    For the Bills, this year from Miller, the cap will be 7/4 + 1.5 + 5.25 for a total of 8.5M. The total cap saving is 17.145 - 8.5 = 8.645M this year. The Bills added 1.75M cap hit for each of the next 3 years of Von's contract.

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    Re: Von renegotiated

    My head hurts

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    Hopefully he plays his greatest season and retires immediately afterwards.
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    Re: Von renegotiated

    Quote Originally Posted by Novacane View Post
    Paycut?
    I believe they moved salary to bonus payout.

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    Re: Von renegotiated

    If this extends the number of years that his salary counts against the cap, **** that.

    If it’s just converting some of his salary to unlikely to be achieved incentives that don’t count against the cap, that’s fine.

    Of course, this begs the question: the Bills will be right up against the cap this year. What happens if multiple players make incentives that put them over the cap? Seems like a fair penalty would be that the overage amount is subtracted from next year’s cap but I don’t know what the actual rule is.

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    Re: Von renegotiated

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    If this extends the number of years that his salary counts against the cap, **** that.
    The key word from Rapoport is re-worked, not extension. Von's original deal is 6 years. He has 4 years remaining. The new 7M signing bonus is spread over the remaining 4 years.

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    Re: Von renegotiated

    Quote Originally Posted by Novacane View Post
    Paycut?

    For all intents and purposes it is a pay cut. Smart move by both the Bills and Von.

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