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  • Woodman
    Legendary Zoner
    • Apr 2014
    • 63344

    #16
    Re: Von renegotiated

    Hopefully he plays his greatest season and retires immediately afterwards.


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    • DetoxTent
      Registered User
      • Sep 2023
      • 514

      #17
      Re: Von renegotiated

      Originally posted by Novacane View Post
      Paycut?
      I believe they moved salary to bonus payout.

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      • OpIv37
        Acid Douching Asswipe
        • Sep 2002
        • 100871

        #18
        Re: Von renegotiated

        If this extends the number of years that his salary counts against the cap, **** that.

        If it’s just converting some of his salary to unlikely to be achieved incentives that don’t count against the cap, that’s fine.

        Of course, this begs the question: the Bills will be right up against the cap this year. What happens if multiple players make incentives that put them over the cap? Seems like a fair penalty would be that the overage amount is subtracted from next year’s cap but I don’t know what the actual rule is.
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        • ghz in pittsburgh
          Registered User
          • Aug 2004
          • 5732

          #19
          Re: Von renegotiated

          Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
          If this extends the number of years that his salary counts against the cap, **** that.
          The key word from Rapoport is re-worked, not extension. Von's original deal is 6 years. He has 4 years remaining. The new 7M signing bonus is spread over the remaining 4 years.

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          • notacon
            Registered User
            • Aug 2012
            • 32484

            #20
            Re: Von renegotiated

            Originally posted by Novacane View Post
            Paycut?

            For all intents and purposes it is a pay cut. Smart move by both the Bills and Von.

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            • Novacane
              Registered User
              • Jul 2002
              • 42093

              #21
              Re: Von renegotiated

              They gave him a wink wink that they'll give him a nice bonus when they hire him as assistant GM after he retires.

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              • Turf
                Registered User
                • Jul 2002
                • 8346

                #22
                Re: Von renegotiated

                Had we not signed Von would we have lost all these players?
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                • Forward_Lateral
                  Registered User
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 29733

                  #23
                  Re: Von renegotiated

                  Originally posted by Turf View Post
                  Had we not signed Von would we have lost all these players?
                  Yes.

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                  • Mace
                    Haha...yeah you think so ?
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 20287

                    #24
                    Re: Von renegotiated

                    Originally posted by Turf View Post
                    Had we not signed Von would we have lost all these players?
                    A few....but we'd also be keeping the more effective Floyd and the more useful Epenesa. Miller was a desperation luxury signing meant to frost an unbaked cake. You can't throw money at guys expecting them to reach their prime stats years after their prime imho but McBeane loves them some vets.

                    Didn't work. If they keep doing it....I will go nuts. This many years into a program you need a draft pipeline of young guys pushing starters not yearly bandaids.

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                    • Historian
                      2020-2023 AFC East Champions!
                      • Dec 2002
                      • 60853

                      #25
                      Re: Von renegotiated

                      Originally posted by Mace View Post
                      Miller was a desperation luxury signing meant to frost an unbaked cake.
                      No it wasn't.

                      You can't look at the move through a 2024 lens.

                      The entire football world thought we were 13 seconds away from winning the whole ball of wax, so they brought in a proven closer.

                      The cake was already baked and cooled.

                      They just bought the wrong flavor frosting.

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                      • YardRat
                        Well, lookie here...
                        • Dec 2004
                        • 85606

                        #26
                        Re: Von renegotiated

                        Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                        If this extends the number of years that his salary counts against the cap, **** that.

                        If it’s just converting some of his salary to unlikely to be achieved incentives that don’t count against the cap, that’s fine.

                        Of course, this begs the question: the Bills will be right up against the cap this year. What happens if multiple players make incentives that put them over the cap? Seems like a fair penalty would be that the overage amount is subtracted from next year’s cap but I don’t know what the actual rule is.
                        The unlikely incentives, if earned, get applied against the following year's cap, so yes it's kind of a 'penalty'.
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                        • YardRat
                          Well, lookie here...
                          • Dec 2004
                          • 85606

                          #27
                          Re: Von renegotiated

                          Rumor, with an emphasis on rumor...somebody with a podcast (Rosenthal?) is claiming Von was willing to renegotiate because he already knows he's being suspended.
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