Going outside without proper frostbite protection and thinking you won't get frostbite is not a reasonable expectation either. The contract includes a game outside and the weather is always a god event. This is a tough case.Originally Posted by sahlensguy
An act of God revent efers to an unanticipated natural event such as a lightning strike or tornado etc.
these conditions were anticipated for all week. And the NFL decided to play through it.
Even the threat of those events cause game delays
God related events are things that can't be predicted and/or manipulated. The manipulation piece is important. It is like a bucket you can put things in that can't be controlled.
And they will argue things like wind directions and temperatures were highly correlated godly events there was no ability to predict and while a large portion of the population suffered no affliction when the mixture of these godly events was correct people got frostbite.
Well I'm sure their pack of lawyers will argue semantics, probably successfully but weather forecasters certainly predicted dangerous and extreme game time conditions for days prior.
The temps were predicted...days in advance.
The Chiefs had gloves available for children. It was announced a day before the game. My first thought was...who in the world would take a kid out in weather like that without gloves?
As far as that night goes...it was brutally cold. I live about 80 miles from Arrowhead so I had the same weather. About an hour before gametime, I had to run and pick someone up, my car wouldn't start so my neighbor took me.
On the way home, I had him stop at the gas station so he could top off his tank. I had my gloves off to run my card through..about a minute or two.
My fingers were already hurting...not cold, but actually hurting.
When I got back in, I looked at my neighbor and said, "I wouldn't be going to the game tonight, even if the Bills were there"
I not surprised that out of 80k people there, that a few dozen ended up with frostbite. Im kinda surprise it wasn't more.
Oaf (03-08-2024)
They may have a case.
The star player's helmet cracked on impact in the cold, remember?
I've been to a lot of cold games, like that Raider playoff, but I've never seen that before.
"Did you freeze your ass off at the fish playoff? You may be entitled to compensation...."
Victim blaming? lol
Shaddap
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Nobody held a gun to these fans' heads and told them they have to go sit in arctic conditions. If children are involved, those parents should be charged with negligence.
I find it funny that not a single player or coach got frostbite, and they were out there in the same conditions, for the same amount of time, wearing far less clothing.
I agree. This is a child protective issue not a sue the NFL issue.
You're just a keyboard warrior.
Pity you weren't at the game...
If the league was negligent, I'm not sure why anyone would be apposed to this
Aren’t some frozen fingers children?
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Bill Cody (03-08-2024)
There were warnings posted at all the entrances. There were a dozen or more warming stations set up both outside and inside the stadium.
Is there precedent?
Has there been cases of frostbite at NFL games before this? Was the NFL or a home team successfully sued for negligence?
So "if" is a better place to start.
If you had, say, even 5% of the fans end up with frostbite, or about 3000 people, then you might have a case.
This was 0.0003%
Of course, these are severe cases that may require amputations (I'm guessing toes and finger tips for the most part...ears are another). How many mild cases were there with some blistering on exposed skin?
As a progressive liberal, "You can't do x because someone might get hurt" is one of my least favorite aspects of liberal ideology.
Ok but to get frostbite the people have to have worn like moccasins to a game they knew was going to be sub zero. You can't fix stupid.
Warning signs don't make it warmer.
Players were provided heated benches. Patrons were not.
Did the warming station locations provide adequate views of the game?
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And if the victims weren't in flip flops, and actually wore socks and boots?
The teams were provided heated benches, the patrons were not, but you're so smart. Plus they are in a heated locker room for the maximum amount of time.
Maybe you have a beef then but we both know that likely isn't what happened here. This smells very strongly as dumbass.
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Ummm, yeah. Or resell them. Or dress for it. I spent like $150 on new gear for the Wild Card game against the Steelers. Knew it was gonna be cold, and prepared accordingly.
Everyone went into that stadium knowing it was on them to stay warm. They signed up to stand in -20.
Wake up, brush your teeth, and get ready for a day of hating the Dolphins. Or the Pats? How to choose?
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