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    Re: Curtis Samuel WR to Bills

    They pretty much made it so they can get a guy other than receiver with this move probably too in my opinion. WR isn't a big impact player grab in the draft either we are going somewhere else and looking at guys who drop.

    Defense needs a lot of help ...

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    Re: Curtis Samuel WR to Bills

    Samuel can definitely fly.. (4.31 at the Combine back in 2017).

    But he's only broken 700 yards once in his career.

    Seems like a great deal of money for waiting for someone to have their breakout year.

    But then, look at what Gabe Davis got.

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    Re: Curtis Samuel WR to Bills

    I guess Beane wasnt kidding when he said he wanted players that are ready to play NOW. No only does Sammuel have experience, but he has experience and had his best year under Brady .

    It's Bradys offense now and McDermott is letting him have the weapons he wants.

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    Re: Curtis Samuel WR to Bills

    Quote Originally Posted by cookie G View Post
    Samuel can definitely fly.. (4.31 at the Combine back in 2017).

    But he's only broken 700 yards once in his career.

    Seems like a great deal of money for waiting for someone to have their breakout year.

    But then, look at what Gabe Davis got.
    Samuel career targets: 485
    Samuel career catches: 317

    Career catch % : 65.4

    Gabe targets: 299
    Gabe catches: 163

    Career % : 54.5

    Diggs career catch % for reference: 68.8

    Take this for what it’s worth

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    Re: Curtis Samuel WR to Bills

    Quote Originally Posted by cookie G View Post
    Samuel can definitely fly.. (4.31 at the Combine back in 2017).

    But he's only broken 700 yards once in his career.

    Seems like a great deal of money for waiting for someone to have their breakout year.

    But then, look at what Gabe Davis got.
    They may be looking at potential with his speed in our offense with Josh throwing to him considering he had nothing but bums, backups and has beens as his QBs during his entire tenure in the league to date.

    We still definitely need to draft a guy 1-2 but this guy could be a great fit.

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    Re: Curtis Samuel WR

    Don’t like this signing. 5’ 11” . I know they need a slot guy but this guy isn’t known for separating so he will play slot but IMO. They need tall dudes that can get downfield and come down with it. This guy will be in Shakir’s lane.

    draft a tall dude with wheels dammit. Little clown car guys don’t work well with Josh. I will say that his hands seem better than Hardy and McKenzie and Stevenson

    lots of money for carbon copies of Crowder.

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    Re: Curtis Samuel WR to Bills

    Quote Originally Posted by THE END OF ALL DAYS View Post
    3 years
    30 M
    15M Guaranteed
    Replacement for Diggs not Davis me thinks.
    Hated by the stupid..
    Loved by their moms.


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    Re: Curtis Samuel WR to Bills

    Quote Originally Posted by acehole View Post
    Replacement for Diggs not Davis me thinks.
    The ceiling must be high with the QB talent this kid was playing with.

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    Re: Curtis Samuel WR to Bills

    Quote Originally Posted by Forward_Lateral View Post
    Samuel career targets: 485
    Samuel career catches: 317

    Career catch % : 65.4

    Gabe targets: 299
    Gabe catches: 163

    Career % : 54.5

    Diggs career catch % for reference: 68.8

    Take this for what it’s worth

    Great summary.

    There's this too...






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    Re: Curtis Samuel WR to Bills

    Curtis Samuel averaged 9.08 mph within the first second of his routes in 2023 (i.e., his "burst"), 3rd-quickest in the NFL (min. 300 routes).

    Bills wide receivers averaged a 7.95 mph burst last season, 29th in the NFL (Gabe Davis: 8.25 mph; Stefon Diggs: 7.73 mph).

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    Re: Curtis Samuel WR to Bills

    This could be Diggs replacement. NOW DRAFT THE NEXT MEGATRON

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    Re: Curtis Samuel WR to Bills

    Go look at Beasleys career before Buffalo.

    Pretty similar to Samuel, if not less impressive

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    Re: Curtis Samuel WR to Bills

    This upgrades our WR options, but he’s not really a Gabe replacement. Is mostly a slot receiver and backfield weapon. To me WR is still very much a dire need for Round 1 or 2.

    But if you add a top rookie option for Gabe’s role, the WR room suddenly looks pretty jacked compared to last couple years

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    Re: Curtis Samuel WR to Bills

    I’m surprised at the player and the money.

    He’s definitely not a Diggs replacement. He’s 7 seasons in and is pretty well established as a slot guy who averages 10.5 ypc. He has not been able to use that 4.31 to take the top off with regularity.

    He’s descent in the slot, but he’s not taking either of the X spots.

    Meanwhile, Shakir took 69% of his snaps in the slot last year and I had assumed he won himself that job going into this year. I’m not sure why they made this signing to be honest as it had potential to stunt Shakir’s growth.

    It definitely shouldn’t deter them from drafting an X reciever very early in the draft. Diggs clock is ticking and they need a guy who can be a WR1 in short order

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    Re: Curtis Samuel WR to Bills

    This only makes sense if they're going to try and use him outside. We have Shakir and Kincaid. Seems redundant.

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    Re: Curtis Samuel WR to Bills

    What does this mean for Shakir?

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    Re: Curtis Samuel WR to Bills

    One less WR to draft means one more pick available for a trade up.
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    Re: Curtis Samuel WR to Bills

    Agree that an outside WR is still a 1st or 2nd round draft priority.
    Also agree he’s a slot guy and I like Shakir
    But he’s a good player and injuries happen in the NFL.
    We’re building what Hank Stram used to call “deep depth” at WR.
    The money part does not bother me. The cap can always be maneuvered

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    Re: Curtis Samuel WR to Bills

    Quote Originally Posted by Oaf View Post
    What does this mean for Shakir?
    I can only see 2 things that make sense:

    1. they think Shakir can play outside

    2. They paid a fair amount of money for a 4th WR.


    If they believe Samuel can play outside as WR2 or plan to demote Shakir back to the bench, this is gonna be a long year.

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    Re: Curtis Samuel WR to Bills

    Quote Originally Posted by Canadian'eh! View Post
    I can only see 2 things that make sense:

    1. they think Shakir can play outside

    2. They paid a fair amount of money for a 4th WR.


    If they believe Samuel can play outside as WR2 or plan to demote Shakir back to the bench, this is gonna be a long year.
    They could be scheming up some four wide sets.

    That could create some gnarly mismatches.

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