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    Re: PSLs… Who is buying?

    Just like my spot on observation of greedy owners being the main impediment to doing the right thing and requiring every NFL game be played on grass, this shows more greediness from another NFL owner.

    Terry Pegula bought the team in 2014 for $1.4B

    Today, it's estimated value is $3.7B...and increase of $2.3B or 164%

    Pegula's net worth is estimated at $6.8B.

    The TEAM (not Pegula personally) is on the hook for paying the difference between the final cost of the stadium over the very generous $850M the public as already pitching in. So, yeah, the expected $200M from PSL's helps pay for the Bills playground.

    BUT, why does Pegula NOT give the area a GIFT by taking that $200M OUT OF HIS OWN POCKET????

    The Buffalo Bills, like every NFL team is WILDLY PROFITABLE!!!


    Forbes says the Bills had a PROFIT of $119M on "sales" of $502M. That's a WHOPPING 23.66% profit margin. A margin that almost all other industries would SALIVATE over (in addition to the non-ending cash cow of guaranteed TV revenues and a labor contract that is TIED to a percentage of the SALES...in other words, labor costs are GUARANTEED to not go up (as % of sales the only accurate metric of labor cost) over the life of each CBA).


    Simply put, a NFL team is a CASH PRINTING MACHINE!!!!! Of ever increasing value.

    Here is a comparison to what percentage of Pegula's net worth it would take to cover that $200M (2.94%) and the median American household by age group (median is 50% have higher and 50% lower)...

    Age of family head (or reference person) Median net worth Amount equal to Pegula's $200M
    Less than 35 $39,000 $1,147
    35-44 $135,600 $3,988
    45-54 $247,200 $7,271
    55-64 $364,500 $10,721
    65-74 $409,000 $12,029
    75+ $335,600 $9,871


    Now, this is a rhetorical exercise. We all KNOW why these filthy rich owners will wring every last dime out of their customers.....BECAUSE THEY CAN!!!!

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    Re: PSLs… Who is buying?

    Pegula should pay 200 million for a stadium owned by New York State?

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    Re: PSLs… Who is buying?

    Quote Originally Posted by Typ0 View Post
    Yes. They are using this to change the complexion of the crowd and skim the top to get people with the lowest price sensitivity to pay higher prices for the product.

    It might feel like being priced out but this might actually make more games available to common fans because the stadium will be less full of season ticket holders.

    It requires them to field a competitive team. The stadium is being built for Josh Allen not Trend Edwards.
    Yea I don’t think that will either happen or is even in the thought process.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sukie View Post
    That’s nothing. The smell of those very Port-o-Lets was significantly worse exponentially AFTER you exited them left the area in your wake… those poor people.
    Basking in the ambience.

    Basking in the ambience.

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    These prices are absurd....and lo and behold, M & T Bank is willing to finance the PSL for you!

    How nice.


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    Re: PSLs… Who is buying?

    Quote Originally Posted by sukie View Post
    Pegula should pay 200 million for a stadium owned by New York State?

    Yep. Consider it a gift to the loyal fans.

    It would be like most of us giving a gift, before we leave this Earth, of about (I'll be generous) of $15,000. Relative pocket change.

    Pegula has ALREADY made a $2.3 BILLION profit on the value of the team with billions of dollars in future profits (more than $100 PER YEAR) GUARANTEED.

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    How much tax does one pay on profits of a value?… just asking for a friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sukie View Post
    Now the 50k per seat gives you rights to those seats when they turn the stadium into a “Giant Mud Pit” for the Monster Truck Jam.
    Oooh....link ?

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    Re: PSLs… Who is buying?

    Quote Originally Posted by Novacane View Post
    People are going to need to take 2nd mortgages to pay a PSL. More pushing the average guy out of everything. It's bull ****.
    I'd consider myself comfortably upper class. I gotta say 200k for 4 psl at the club level is a bit steep... even for me. I want to do it, because i don't want my father sitting in the weather anymore, he's 83 now... and he uses my season tickets more then i do (much more), i was thinking about getting 4 club seats cause I'm not coaching anymore, so i figured me and my family could come to buffalo a few weekends a year to see some bills games and let the kids visit their grandfather. But 200k... I'm gonna have to talk that type of investment over with my wife.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sukie View Post
    How much tax does one pay on profits of a value?… just asking for a friend.
    With the (dumbfoundedly legal) tax strategies of the filthy rich, aided by one party that wants to get rid of ANY estate tax????....hardly any.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sukie View Post
    How much tax does one pay on profits of a value?… just asking for a friend.
    (Snicker snicker).

    Nice.

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    Some think you tax unrealized gains… precious.

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    Pegula hasn't made anything on the team. He paid 1.4 billion in sep 2014....cash. 119 million a year would take 11 years and 7 months to recover initial investment...that would be in 2026.

    I still feel bad for season ticket holders.

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    20k gets one a huge 84 inch 8k tv Dolby Atmos set up. A killer theatre seating set up and a nice hotdog roller and popcorn machine.

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    Re: PSLs… Who is buying?

    PSLs suck, but it's a way of life for most sports now.

    Locally, the Rangers, Stars, Cowboys, and Mavericks all have PSLs. Even the local high-school football teams have PSLs.

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    Here's the story of a guy who entertains clients in a suite. Now he's being moved into regular seats, lol.

    https://www.wgrz.com/article/sports/...yv1nGUvfaVwkV4

    Season ticket holder shocked at $400,000 price tag to keep seats at the new Bills Stadium


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    That would be a cool dome but naming rights would be tricky

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