Bills trading Diggs to texans

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Re: Bills trading Diggs to texans

trade deadline isn't till oct 31st... and there are still numerous free agents not signed and they're will be more before the start of the season .

Yeah I think people are more concerned about the WR corp's than they really need to be. Between the draft and FA's/future FA's it'll be taken care of. Plus, we have four WR's signed to futures/reserve contracts... Hamler, Isabella, Shavers, and Thompson.

My biggest "concern" right now is the secondary and our depth at LB.

[notacon]

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Yeah, maybe I'm missing some things.

Diggs as a Bill was a 19 mil cap hit. Not a Bill is a 31 mil cap hit. That's not 4 mil, it's 12.

Diggs was a team captain. Locker room cancer with culture motivational guy McDermott placid? No.

Only other player with as much fire to win is Allen. Diggs' production declined because they stopped throwing to him noim for the second year in a row. S'ok... they'll be a running team...with qb Josh Allen... seriously?

Rumors also say Beane was keeping him until Texans dangled a 2nd...and reference Keenan Allen.

We needed to complement a wr catching 100 plus balls a year to needing to replace him...and find another to complement that production. We're going to run! With qb Josh Allen we're going to be a running team? Really?

My best to Diggs. Yeah, that was a bad drop, but after how long using him on bubble screens bubble screens.
.really ?

I think this was stupid....imho...

I believe you are "missing some things".

Diggs was a $27M cap hit for 2024 for the Bills. Trading him now added $4M more which equals the $31M cap number that is reported.

What they gained was that there is ZERO cap hit for 2025.

What you may be confusing is that HOUSTON'S cap number for 2024 is $19M, because they had NO earlier bonus money that was spread over several years.

As per ESPN...

This is a cash-saving move for the Bills ... but not a cap-saving move. Diggs' 2024 cap number would have been $27.854 million if he had stayed on the team, but trading him means the Bills will carry a dead-money charge of $31.096 million for Diggs this season. Per ESPN Stats & Information research, that will be the highest-known dead-money charge for a wide receiver in any season all time. (If Buffalo had waited until after June 1 to execute the trade, it could have taken a dead-money hit of $8.849 million this season and the remaining $22.247 million next year.)

However, the Bills' cash budget will be free of the $18.5 million in fully guaranteed salary that Diggs is owed this season. They were already pretty much right up against the cap before this move, so it doesn't free up any cap space for other moves.

As for the Texans, they'll take on a $19.005 million cap hit for Diggs ($18.5 million in salary and another $505,000 in bonuses) for 2024. That would eat up just about all of their current cap space, so it's possible they could rework Diggs' contract to convert some of that salary into a signing bonus and save cap room in 2024 if needed. If they don't, they could get out of the Diggs deal very easily after one season. The only guaranteed money Diggs has left on his deal after 2024 is a $3.5 million injury-only guarantee for 2025. If the Texans were to keep Diggs on his current contract beyond this season, they'd owe him $18.505 million in salary and bonuses in 2025, $19,597,941 in 2026 and an even $18 million in 2027. -- Dan Graziano

This was a very smart move by the Bills. They rid themselves of a diva who performed like **** in the playoffs, especially vs KC.

They got something of value for him, when the likelihood that they would get even less the longer they waiting was almost assured.

The Bills proved they could excel without Diggs as last year's late season surge (while Diggs contributions and performance plummeted) without him while young talent (Kincaid, Cook and Shakir) "emerged as trustworthy weapons".


JOSH ALLEN is the heart of this team. Diggs grew into a distracting pain in the ass who was not worth the trouble.

While getting a huge head start on 2025 cap issues. Von Miller will be next.

[Typ0]

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Channeling OP this week????

The Bills channel OP.

[notacon]

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Allen couldn’t get past the Chiefs with Diggs. He’s not gonna do it without any players anywhere near Diggs’ skill level.

Except as I already have shown, Diggs was AWFUL vs the Chiefs in the three losses to them in the playoffs, and AWFUL in every one of the Bills four playoff losses while he was on the team.


"Diggs skill level" means nothing if he plays like **** in the most critical games.


The Bills are going to be better off without him.

[acehole]

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You have a lot of self limiting beliefs.

Breath in the good air and out the bad.

Anything is possible...

If your really go back and read your reply you will see you are actually making a case to remove diggs.

"We could not get past the chiefs with Diggs"

The front office noticed that drop in the chiefs game.

You can't open a new door until you closed and old one.

To quote the greatest President in US history "Lets see what happens".

[notacon]

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Bottom line is we ripped the bandaid off and all the kids are crying.

This is addition by subtraction.

You are not fully aware of the entire plan...or what animosity he may have cuased.

My feeling is they have a plan in the draft or FA to minimize his departure. Beene did not seem nervous at the presser.

We have 7 other targets 7 on this offence.

Bradys offense spreads the ball around...it is possible Diggs did not want to be "a" guy he wanted to be "the" guy.

We had a lot go on this year. Most of the bad or dead or overpaid or older players are gone.
We have room to sign some younger players and some of our developmental players next year.
Diggs and Von could not be cut in same year.

Von bought time.

Diggs did not.

If we get a top notch center and one yes just one more WR in the draft we have the same offense personell.

If Curtis Samuel stays heathy he is close to the player he could be we will be fine.

I am actually more concerned about defense and its depth.

We need some new dogs who will make us forget the departures.

Defense is easier to find and develop and play as they rotate.

I don't think we are done with personnel.

So many WR situations have not shaken out and there are cuts.

I love the off season more then the season sometimes.

More to look forward to.

SPOT ON!!!!

The season does not start for FIVE MONTHS. The roster is NO WHERE NEAR being done.

Diggs played like **** in every one of the Bills four playoff losses while he was on the team. The ONLY thing that matters is the Bills excelling in the playoffs, and Diggs did VERY LITTLE to help accomplish that.

[Typ0]

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McDermott & Allen have mutual dichotomous narcissism -- they feed off each other like lovers.

The minute that THEY are the one that is going to pop up and give us an issue you can be damn well certain they are going to be right there doing just that with the model we are looking at -- because they are beyond the scope of what humble and hungry actually embodies.

But they will look you right in the eye and mumble how humble and hungry they are.

Good luck trying to win a championship.

Maintain the status quo and come up with a pile of excuses why you didn't win it all? Ripe for that kind of stuff.

Trust the process.

Damn the torpedoes full speed ahead.

[Typ0]

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"We could not get past the chiefs with Diggs"

Except Diggs was the guy standing in there telling them adjustments needed to be made in order to beat the chiefs that were not made.

The right commitments are not there.

So don't put it on Diggs you didn't get past the Chiefs ... he just wants to go somewhere he might find some energy that might win it all.

[Mad Max]

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The Bills channel OP.

If the Bills channeled OpI they’d be a 4 win team. Bro you’re on a hyperbolic rocket ride of late lol I hope you’re enjoying the view.

[justasportsfan]

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That is our team. There isn't a lot of discipline and attention to keeping everyone on the same page. It's more like a Rogue Josh Allen's lucky bounces that quickly becomes a **** show when 1/2 the time the lucky bounce doesn't go so lucky because it's all being left to chance.

If that is true they wouldn't have included the OC in the entire draft process with Josh Allen.
They wouldnt get Allens input on the next OC when Daboll left. That goes for both Dorsey and Brady.
They also would find players to fit the scheme and simply live with Diggs having to play through Brady's system. Instead they got rid of him and are brining in someone I'm sure Brady wants.

If they were too focused on lucky bounces then they wouldnt have made these moves. They would keep trying to stick a peg in a round hole. Thats isnt what this team has done since the begining. The grabbed a QB and built around him. Not the other way around.

[justasportsfan]

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Except Diggs was the guy standing in there telling them adjustments needed to be made in order to beat the chiefs that were not made.

The right commitments are not there.

So don't put it on Diggs you didn't get past the Chiefs ... he just wants to go somewhere he might find some energy that might win it all.

This was a team loss. But Diggs disappearing when Brady came in means he isnt a fit.

[Typ0]

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If the Bills channeled OpI they’d be a 4 win team. Bro you’re on a hyperbolic rocket ride of late lol I hope you’re enjoying the view.

It's a control issue.

You gotta give it up. It is not about you [I'm talking about me not you fyi]. You have to give it up and be positive to move forward in a positive way.

It is the only way to be.

But there comes a time you really start questioning giving it up to someone who in turn isn't giving it up and displays some threads of competence issues in the decisions that are being made when they aren't giving it up. It's not even incompetence until you keep doing the same thing over and over and not learning...then it is incompetence and where intervention is needed.

Come to think of it we probably should have an insurrection just because Trump and Biden are the choices!

The view up here keeps getting increasingly worse. You think you live through some hardship to rebuild and have some better days until you live your life the same way and end up in hardship again.

It isn't even just about turnover and ridding of players...it's got more to do with the idea that consistency can't be achieved yet individuals will use consistency as their rationalle.

I'm not encouraged. Extremely discouraged McDermott will rise up in a Bills uniform and find it more likely he will peter out and return to some cemetery in Carolina with a Panthers jersey on.

At the end of the day....we won't risk having a bad season at the possibility of winning it all. They are going to try and patch this thing up and some things aren't going to work and they will hurt and things won't go very well at times.

That's just the beginning this machine is going to be allowed to age and mature in it's ineptitude and that is the concern.

[Typ0]

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This was a team loss. But Diggs disappearing when Brady came in means he isnt a fit.

hmmm. how does it mean that?

[cas22]

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Except Diggs was the guy standing in there telling them adjustments needed to be made in order to beat the chiefs that were not made.

The right commitments are not there.

So don't put it on Diggs you didn't get past the Chiefs ... he just wants to go somewhere he might find some energy that might win it all.

the only thing Diggs was telling them was he needed the ball in order for the Bills to win, When in Minny he was fine until Thelian starting getting touch's then it was time to get out, who didn't show up for voluntary work outs and even missed mandatory workout? Diggs...

like I said there are not to many on the bills offense crying over this trade and thats for a reason...

Diggs might be the no #3 wr in Houston so how do you think he is gonna like that?

Diggs has great talent or had but there is more to being a great teammate than talent alone.

[sukie]

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The team is still at a net talent loss from where we were at the end of the season. We don’t have anyone who can replace even the reduced production of the aging players.

Diggs didn’t produce down the stretch? Ok. Replace him with someone who can. It’s too late for that now.

someone is getting his targets this season. Since we don’t know yet who, why speculate that it will suck? (Aside your MO)