Josh may be part of the cause that Diggs is off the Bills roster - Cover 1

[ghz in pittsburgh]

Long video but around 100 mark when Erik got into some insight of the Bengals playoff game with the particular play in video.

In summary, during the week, they practiced against a certain look and Josh was not hitting it. When Diggs confronted Josh, Josh simply said "just get open." --- Erik didn't like the attitude (Josh), like you need to work on every single detail. Then in the game, they got that same look - on 4th down, but a little twist where the DB took outside leverage so Diggs had to take a different release. The play went to Davis and didn't work. Diggs was heard saying to Josh afterward like "What's the execuse now?"

They also mentioned in 2023 offseason, Josh didn't throw to his receivers like prior years - he may still throw with Palmer, but guys like Mahomes throw to his receivers in the offseason.

[gr8slayer]

You can tell that they weren't on the same page last year... Saw it in Dallas with Dak and Cooper at the end.

Diggs is: Aging, needs a new contract, has (perceived) attitude issues at times, was clearly not on the same page with Josh.

The team is undergoing a soft rebuild right now... This is a win for the Bills.

[Novacane]

Cowherd said Josh signed off on it. Said he was tiring of Diggs' constant drama.

[ghz in pittsburgh]

Cowherd said Josh signed off on it. Said he was tiring of Diggs' constant drama.

That is a given. Don't believe they would do that without Josh's approval. I think that Chiefs' game where Diggs didn't come down with Josh's bomb is something a big alert to the caoches, Josh and many players.

What I feel interesting here is that does Josh need to be pushed more, especially behind the scenes. We now know Tom Brady, in public, was not that active as a leader. But behind the scenes, he's an*l in demanding perfection from his fellow offensive players. Do we have that in Josh or is it just call of duties play or come to my house any time type of deal.

[sahlensguy]

Probably why Josh went to Shakir after the 2:00 warning against the Chiefs instead of a wide open Diggs.

Beasley said Davis was one of the few dogs on the team - gone

Diggs - gone

No one left to challenge Allen's lack of commitment to the game now. All is good.

[Woodman]

Cowherd said Josh signed off on it. Said he was tiring of Diggs' constant drama.

We chose the correct path.

[gr8slayer]

Probably why Josh went to Shakir after the 2:00 warning against the Chiefs instead of a wide open Diggs.

Beasley said Davis was one of the few dogs on the team - gone

Diggs - gone

No one left to challenge Allen's lack of commitment to the game now. All is good.

Are you insinuating that Allen is an issue? That last sentence is throwing me off.

[sahlensguy]

Are you insinuating that Allen is an issue? That last sentence is throwing me off.

Josh Allen is part of the problem, yes.

There are deficiencies in his leadership ability and it manifested itself in part to Diggs' demise and departure. There's a good chance prime Diggs will be the best receiver he'll ever throw to. Not throwing to Diggs at the end of the KC game may have cost us the win, And there's a good chance the wrong pass to Shakir was because of a beef between the two.

They'll probably find an easier to control and less demanding stud going forward. If they're lucky.

[YardRat]

Josh is part of the problem.

I'll say it again, I don't think I've ever seen an enigma like this in 50+ of watching any sport, let alone football. Josh is definitely the best player on the team, arguably in the entire league, and the Bills would not be where they are without him, but at the same time his deficiencies in the mental game, commitment and focus are holding the team back.

If his ass isn't in the building throwing to these possible draft picks when they come for a visit somebody needs to have a come-to-Jesus meeting with him.

[sahlensguy]

Josh is part of the problem.

I'll say it again, I don't think I've ever seen an enigma like this in 50+ of watching any sport, let alone football. Josh is definitely the best player on the team, arguably in the entire league, and the Bills would not be where they are without him, but at the same time his deficiencies in the mental game, commitment and focus are holding the team back.

If his ass isn't in the building throwing to these possible draft picks when they come for a visit somebody needs to have a come-to-Jesus meeting with him.

Honest take, Yardie.

And it just sucks that the only one in the organization willing to get in Allen's grill has just been traded.

Josh has always been on an island here and his life boat is now gone. No one is going to challenge him anymore to fix the mental part of his game anymore but himself. I'm not optimistic.

[Thurmal]

Josh is part of the problem.

I'll say it again, I don't think I've ever seen an enigma like this in 50+ of watching any sport, let alone football. Josh is definitely the best player on the team, arguably in the entire league, and the Bills would not be where they are without him, but at the same time his deficiencies in the mental game, commitment and focus are holding the team back.

If his ass isn't in the building throwing to these possible draft picks when they come for a visit somebody needs to have a come-to-Jesus meeting with him.

LMAO, any issue he had on the gridiron was due to the fact that he was divorced to feed a petulant diva the ball constantly to avoid drama. Watch his turnover numbers plummet now that he isn't worried about forcing a dozen targets to Diggs every week to keep him from going into full cancer mode.

[Novacane]

Josh is part of the problem.

I'll say it again, I don't think I've ever seen an enigma like this in 50+ of watching any sport, let alone football. Josh is definitely the best player on the team, arguably in the entire league, and the Bills would not be where they are without him, but at the same time his deficiencies in the mental game, commitment and focus are holding the team back.

If his ass isn't in the building throwing to these possible draft picks when they come for a visit somebody needs to have a come-to-Jesus meeting with him.

Is this part even allowed under the cba? I'd like to hear someone other than a 2 time malcontent saying JA isn't committed before I take it as gospel.

[Woodman]

LMAO, any issue he had on the gridiron was due to the fact that he was divorced to feed a petulant diva the ball constantly to avoid drama. Watch his turnover numbers plummet now that he isn't worried about forcing a dozen targets to Diggs every week to keep him from going into full cancer mode.

Bingo!!!

[Goobylal]

I've said that when Diggs finally moved on, it would truly be Josh's team. It happened sooner than I thought but that time is now.

[sahlensguy]

LMAO, any issue he had on the gridiron was due to the fact that he was divorced to feed a petulant diva the ball constantly to avoid drama. Watch his turnover numbers plummet now that he isn't worried about forcing a dozen targets to Diggs every week to keep him from going into full cancer mode.

I think you're missing a dynamic that says Diggs wasn't happy with the commitment Josh had for the game. If that commitment would have met or surpassed Diggs' commitment I don't think that diva behavior would have been a problem.
Stefon wanted more, that's all.

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I've said that when Diggs finally moved on, it would truly be Josh's team. It happened sooner than I thought but that time is now.

A bunch of yes men now.

[Goobylal]

I think you're missing a dynamic that says Diggs wasn't happy with the commitment Josh had for the game. If that commitment would have met or surpassed Diggs' commitment I don't think that diva behavior would have been a problem.
Stefon wanted more, that's all.

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A bunch of yes men now.

I won't trash Diggs. He was a big part of the Bills' success. Sometimes it's best to part ways before the end comes crashing down.

[Thurmal]

I think you're missing a dynamic that says Diggs wasn't happy with the commitment Josh had for the game. If that commitment would have met or surpassed Diggs' commitment I don't think that diva behavior would have been a problem.
Stefon wanted more, that's all.

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A bunch of yes men now.

Allen is a better QB than Diggs is a WR. The latter was in no place to levy any criticism.

[kgun12]

[QUOTE=sahlensguy;5096562]I think you're missing a dynamic that says Diggs wasn't happy with the commitment Josh had for the game. If that commitment would have met or surpassed Diggs' commitment I don't think that diva behavior would have been a problem.
Stefon wanted more, that's all.

I'm I missing something? How do we know what Josh does or doesn't do as far as film study or commitment to football other than the opinion of a few on here? Has anything been documented or reported by real sourses. I'm not arguing or trying to call anyone out but I just haven't seen or read any evidence to any of these claims by anyone in the know. I haven't even heard any quotes from Diggs about Josh's commitment. Yes he complanined about not getting the ball and yes his interception are maddening but I can remember reading anything from Diggs or anyone else about his commitment., again except from some poster insinuations.

[cas22]

Josh is part of the problem.

I'll say it again, I don't think I've ever seen an enigma like this in 50+ of watching any sport, let alone football. Josh is definitely the best player on the team, arguably in the entire league, and the Bills would not be where they are without him, but at the same time his deficiencies in the mental game, commitment and focus are holding the team back.

If his ass isn't in the building throwing to these possible draft picks when they come for a visit somebody needs to have a come-to-Jesus meeting with him.

Diggs was the problem hands down. he did the same in Minny.. here is a small sample..

Diggs in the last 12 game was targeted 71 times for 42 catch's 388 yards with a drop rate of 12.5 %'''

Shakir last 12 games targeted 33 times for 28 catch's 482 yards with a drop rate of 3.4 %

Kincaid last 12 games was targeted 56 times for 44 catchs with 406 yards with a 6.4 % drop rate

Davis last 12 targeted 33 times for 17 catch's 248 yards and a 10.5 % drop rate...

clearly Diggs was and will be the issue in houston also...

[cas22]

Bottom line is buffalo can win without diggs thats already been proven,, they cannot win without Allen..