Can you win a Super Bowl without a great #1 WR?

[Mad Max]

agreed. case in point.

terell bernard behind tremaine edmunds.

You’re baits gonna catch a big old guppy

[Forward_Lateral]

Tre. No longer a starter. Didn’t play basically 2 seasons
Hyde No longer a starter. Couldn’t stay on field
Gabe Davis. Starter ? He sucks
Morse. His replacement… we shall see. His best years were behind him.

are you weeping for Poyer?

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Ya know how one becomes an all pro starter? One needs to start.

Exactly.

The only position of any concern right now besides WR is Safety. Rapp could easily be the next Poyer or Hyde (He could also suck, but you get the point).

I don't know how anyone who followed the team last year can honestly be upset about any of the players lost this offseason.

If you want to be upset that they didn't wait until after the draft to trade Diggs, I can understand that.

Other than that, like Sukie said, all the guys that left are either on the downslope of their career, or got highly over paid by another team, or both.

[sukie]

For Milanos money… who wants Edmunds back? I kinda like our backup LBs that panned out.

[OpIv37]

For Milanos money… who wants Edmunds back? I kinda like our backup LBs that panned out.

And you think that's just going to keep panning out with everyone we lost? That every backup we have is better than an all pro starter? Ok...

[OpIv37]

Exactly.

The only position of any concern right now besides WR is Safety. Rapp could easily be the next Poyer or Hyde (He could also suck, but you get the point).

I don't know how anyone who followed the team last year can honestly be upset about any of the players lost this offseason.

If you want to be upset that they didn't wait until after the draft to trade Diggs, I can understand that.

Other than that, like Sukie said, all the guys that left are either on the downslope of their career, or got highly over paid by another team, or both.

EVERYONE should be upset, not so much that we lost guys but that we're trying to replace ALL of them with completely unproven backups. But hey, it worked ONCE with Edmunds, so no need to be concerned, right?

It's one thing to get rid of players who are clearly declining, but it's another thing to just expect all their inexperienced backups to come in and play at the same level.

[kscdogbillsfan1221]

You’re baits gonna catch a big old guppy

I’m honestly not trying to bait

this was the first example I had

[Mad Max]

I’m honestly not trying to bait

this was the first example I had

I know you weren’t but the guppy can’t resist that topic as chum usually.

[Forward_Lateral]

EVERYONE should be upset, not so much that we lost guys but that we're trying to replace ALL of them with completely unproven backups. But hey, it worked ONCE with Edmunds, so no need to be concerned, right?

It's one thing to get rid of players who are clearly declining, but it's another thing to just expect all their inexperienced backups to come in and play at the same level.

Who have they replaced with inexperienced backups??

[Ginger Vitis]

OPIV constantly makes references to the salary cap and brings up the salary cap endlessly.. but he doesn't know the basic s of how nfl salary caps work lol

[kgun12]

EVERYONE should be upset, not so much that we lost guys but that we're trying to replace ALL of them with completely unproven backups. But hey, it worked ONCE with Edmunds, so no need to be concerned, right?

It's one thing to get rid of players who are clearly declining, but it's another thing to just expect all their inexperienced backups to come in and play at the same level.

Almost nobody and I mean almost nobody on this board was excited when the Bills brought in Hyde and Poyer. I honk that’s where my optimism comes from. I think Beans has done a pretty good job with these accusations. Not all by most and there probably isn’t one person on this board that is surprised by your suicidal reaction to the signings. You would be negative no matter who they signed.

[sukie]

And you think that's just going to keep panning out with everyone we lost? That every backup we have is better than an all pro starter? Ok...

Gabe sucked hard to be worse
Diggs obviously was an issue

Hyde and Tre didn’t play much last two years

morse isn’t nearly the Morse of old.

so who else?

[OpIv37]

Who have they replaced with inexperienced backups??

All of them. They literally added nobody at the positions we lost.

[OpIv37]

Gabe sucked hard to be worse
Diggs obviously was an issue

Hyde and Tre didn’t play much last two years

morse isn’t nearly the Morse of old.

so who else?

See, you’re confusing two different issues. No, Morse was not the Morse of old. But, we also don’t have anyone on the roster who can play C equal to or better than what Morse did last year. Same for Diggs and Davis. Maybe Shakir but he can’t replace both.

[sukie]

Again you said 6 lost . Who? Dont mention my list. Who is the loss that is not replaced. You have zero idea how the kid will play at center where he has played before so shown… who was the big loss?

Poyer?

Diggs and his lack of big game production?

I know you aren’t opening about the Gabe Davis subtraction.


where is the massive insurmountable loss? It isn’t at center.

it isn’t at CB.

[OpIv37]

Again you said 6 lost . Who? Dont mention my list. Who is the loss that is not replaced. You have zero idea how the kid will play at center where he has played before so shown… who was the big loss?

Poyer?

Diggs and his lack of big game production?

I know you aren’t opening about the Gabe Davis subtraction.


where is the massive insurmountable loss? It isn’t at center.

it isn’t at CB.

No one has any idea how the kids will play. We lost Diggs, Davis, Poyer, White, Hyde and Morse. Expecting the kids to step up and play well enough to replace all of that…. Just insanity. Yes, they were all past their prime but it’s still a talent deficit. We have no one proven to be equal or better.

It’s drought era thinking. During the drought, the team was actually good at not overpaying guys and getting rid of aging vets. The mistake that they consistently made was expecting to replace them with “next man up!” That’s what’s happening here.

[kscdogbillsfan1221]

No one has any idea how the kids will play. We lost Diggs, Davis, Poyer, White, Hyde and Morse. Expecting the kids to step up and play well enough to replace all of that…. Just insanity. Yes, they were all past their prime but it’s still a talent deficit. We have no one proven to be equal or better.

It’s drought era thinking. During the drought, the team was actually good at not overpaying guys and getting rid of aging vets. The mistake that they consistently made was expecting to replace them with “next man up!” That’s what’s happening here.

Jesus dude, you’re incorrigible

Mike Edwards 2 time Super Bowl champ (replacing Hyde/poyer) isn’t a ‘kid’
Taylor rapp isn’t a ‘kid’ (replacing Hyde/poyer)
Curtis Samuel isn’t a ‘kid’ (replacing one of the wr)
Tre whites replacement (Douglas / benford) aren’t kids

I’ll give you McGovern as we don’t know what we are getting

and the two wr we need in the draft are kids

but to act like we are just winging it with replacements is just false

[Mad Max]

Jesus dude, you’re incorrigible

Mike Edwards 2 time Super Bowl champ (replacing Hyde/poyer) isn’t a ‘kid’
Taylor rapp isn’t a ‘kid’ (replacing Hyde/poyer)
Curtis Samuel isn’t a ‘kid’ (replacing one of the wr)
Tre whites replacement (Douglas / benford) aren’t kids

I’ll give you McGovern as we don’t know what we are getting

and the two wr we need in the draft are kids

but to act like we are just winging it with replacements is just false

Don’t confuse Opie with facts.

[OpIv37]

Jesus dude, you’re incorrigible

Mike Edwards 2 time Super Bowl champ (replacing Hyde/poyer) isn’t a ‘kid’
Taylor rapp isn’t a ‘kid’ (replacing Hyde/poyer)
Curtis Samuel isn’t a ‘kid’ (replacing one of the wr)
Tre whites replacement (Douglas / benford) aren’t kids

I’ll give you McGovern as we don’t know what we are getting

and the two wr we need in the draft are kids

but to act like we are just winging it with replacements is just false

Rapp was the backup. Douglas was brought in to complement White, not replace him, but I’ll give you that Benford spent most of the season playing for White anyway. Samuel not being a kid doesn’t mean he’s good enough to replace Diggs. You already said McGovern is a question mark. I’ll admit I don’t know much about Edwards but one can’t replace two.

[sukie]

Rapp back used the Bills to a division title… crushing Fin nation.

[sukie]

No one has any idea how the kids will play. We lost Diggs, Davis, Poyer, White, Hyde and Morse. Expecting the kids to step up and play well enough to replace all of that…. Just insanity. Yes, they were all past their prime but it’s still a talent deficit. We have no one proven to be equal or better.

It’s drought era thinking. During the drought, the team was actually good at not overpaying guys and getting rid of aging vets. The mistake that they consistently made was expecting to replace them with “next man up!” That’s what’s happening here.

Once again… read slowly.

Diggs. Okay a replacement is needed as a 1. He really wasn’t all that irreplaceable down the home stretch though

Tre and Hyde WERE replaced already the last 2 years. When they came back briefly… they were kinda the backups playing spot duty.

Milano will be back so LB is improved.

Poyer played un poyer-like. Easy replaced talent at its current level.

morse McGovern… meh probably will be seen as close to a wash if not an improvement. Morse is old and can’t remember where he left his keys some days,

so let’s talk about Gabe Davis… what about his stellar play cannot be replaced ?

it seems to me that you are thinking the Bills are suddenly missing the Tre, Poyer, Hyde and Morse of 2021. And Gabe from that KC game.

hell I’d rather Shakir get the Davis Balls . He will catch them at least.