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You claim Rapp is going to replace one of them. But Rapp was on the bench behind them. How do you not see the problem here?
Because Poyer was a highly respected Safety and on a big contract. Regardless of his current skill set, he was the starter.
I believe Terrell Bernard was a better LB than Edmunds but if Edmunds was still on the team we would know about Bernard expect for spot duty.
i don’t think Rapp played Hyde’s safety roll BUT Hyde barely made the field, is still available and THAT speaks volumes.
Re: Can you win a Super Bowl without a great #1 WR?
Also, if your only argument is Rapp, then your point is idiotic anyways.
They got rid of 2 aging safeties, re-signed a guy they obviously feel can do the job at one of the spots, and likely will draft one or two as well.
You said "They replaced several positions with backups".
No, they did not.
D-line-- All starters returning, plus Von Miller back to 100% (hopefully)
LBs--- All starters returning
Corners--All starters returning
O-line--All starters returning except LG
RB-- All starters returning
QB---All starters returning
TE--All starters returning
WR--No starters returning, unless you count Shakir, who I guess started some in the slot. Samuel replaces Davis, so really Diggs is gone, and he did f-all anyways when it mattered.
What could you possibly be referring to, besides losing Diggs and 2 old ass safeties, one of which is probably going to retire anyways.
Because Poyer was a highly respected Safety and on a big contract. Regardless of his current skill set, he was the starter.
I believe Terrell Bernard was a better LB than Edmunds but if Edmunds was still on the team we would know about Bernard expect for spot duty.
i don’t think Rapp played Hyde’s safety roll BUT Hyde barely made the field, is still available and THAT speaks volumes.
Because Poyer was a highly respected Safety and on a big contract. Regardless of his current skill set, he was the starter.
I believe Terrell Bernard was a better LB than Edmunds but if Edmunds was still on the team we would know about Bernard expect for spot duty.
i don’t think Rapp played Hyde’s safety roll BUT Hyde barely made the field, is still available and THAT speaks volumes.
I mean, if the coach is putting players on the field based on contracts and not based on who’s actually playing the best, we have much bigger problems than I thought.
That happens all the time. Careers end new ones blossom. Players often play one too many seasons.
the drop off can be equal to or below the able bodied back up.
no way of knowing Bernard would play that well when Edmunds was in there. You can’t gauge a player on practice alone.
packers didn’t know how good Love was until Rodgers left. They didn’t know how good Rodgers was until Favre left.
QB’s are a completely different animal.
And if Poyer is on such obvious decline, and we have someone like Rapp on the bench behind him, then it’s on the coaches to make the switch.
And, the argument here is that Rapp has experience, but you just used two guys who had 0 experience as examples. Benching a S for another experienced S isn’t the same thing at all as benching a starting QB for one with no experience.
And, we can’t go into the season replacing guys with backups cuz “hey, you never really know til they play, right?” Again, that’s drought-era thinking.
And if Poyer is on such obvious decline, and we have someone like Rapp on the bench behind him, then it’s on the coaches to make the switch.
And, the argument here is that Rapp has experience, but you just used two guys who had 0 experience as examples. Benching a S for another experienced S isn’t the same thing at all as benching a starting QB for one with no experience.
And, we can’t go into the season replacing guys with backups cuz “hey, you never really know til they play, right?” Again, that’s drought-era thinking.
Ok Op time for early predictions to determine the amount of your cynicism.
Mike Edwards 2 time Super Bowl champ (replacing Hyde/poyer) isn’t a ‘kid’
Taylor rapp isn’t a ‘kid’ (replacing Hyde/poyer)
Curtis Samuel isn’t a ‘kid’ (replacing one of the wr)
Tre whites replacement (Douglas / benford) aren’t kids
I’ll give you McGovern as we don’t know what we are getting
and the two wr we need in the draft are kids
but to act like we are just winging it with replacements is just false
+1
Sure looks like Opi is taking the fantasy football mindset.
Of course in the real world it does not work that way. Players do NOT perform in a vacuum, like they do in fantasy football (full disclosure...I hate fantasy football...it's such bullcrap).
In a TEAM sport like NFL football, how the different pieces mesh together, and are suitable for an offensive and defensive scheme is much more critical than the silly......"No one has any idea how the kids will play. We lost Diggs, Davis, Poyer, White, Hyde and Morse. Expecting the kids to step up and play well enough to replace all of that…. Just insanity. Yes, they were all past their prime but it’s still a talent deficit. We have no one proven to be equal or better."
Of course, Opi does not even listen to himself. The most credible thing his whinefest expressed was "No one has any idea how the kids will play."
In Opi's fantasy football world, it's just assumed that the "kids" will not be as good as the departed, no matter if some of them were washed up has-beens. In Opi's fantasy world no young player ever gets better...no backup can replace a starter and do a better job. How lame!!
But, we DO know how the departed DID perform, especially in the most critical games.
Diggs - SUCKED in the playoffs, like he has in every single playoff loss the Bills have had his four years on the team. Once the offensive scheme changed after Brady took over, he was invisible. The Bills literally won MORE GAMES (7 including playoffs) than they did before Diggs was de-emphasized (5 up to the Denver debacle). Diggs had almost nothing to do with the Bills fantasit 6-1 finish (which Opi said would NEVER happen) . Diggs was TERRIBLE in the KC loss....an albatross.
Davis - His 55% catch % was the worst of any pass catcher on the team. MUCH less than Shakir's 86.6% and Kincaid's 80.2%. His route running was terrible. He could hardly ever get any separation. He was a dismally bad #2 WR last year. He did not play in either of the playoff games and he was not missed.
Poyer - damaged goods. He's done. No wonder the best FA offer he could get was barley above vet min.
White - damaged goods. Only played in 10 games the past two years. He was below average in at least half of those.
Hyde - more damaged goods. No one wants him.
Morse - good player on the downside of his career. So many concussions. McGovern will be just fine as his replacement. The Bills will not notice he's gone.
Opi's pearl clutching makes little sense in the real world. The NFL is a constant churn of players.
The offensive core is strong. Curtis is a great addition. Cook is coming into his own. Shakir is ready to become a star. Kincaid is poised to become a superstar. Josh Allen already is a superstar.
The Bills are well positioned to draft one or two good WR's. I suspect that one of this years WR draft choices will be starting on day one and do a very good job.
By mid-season we will probably all be saying that we are much better off without any of those departed players. In any event, it's best to wait and see what this team is going to be before declaring them dead and digging their grave.
How ****ing pathetic it is to do that....and Opi does it every ****ing year.
And if Poyer is on such obvious decline, and we have someone like Rapp on the bench behind him, then it’s on the coaches to make the switch.
And, the argument here is that Rapp has experience, but you just used two guys who had 0 experience as examples. Benching a S for another experienced S isn’t the same thing at all as benching a starting QB for one with no experience.
And, we can’t go into the season replacing guys with backups cuz “hey, you never really know til they play, right?” Again, that’s drought-era thinking.
Let me play devils advocate. Perhaps there was decline but not detrimental to put a guy in that you have only seen in practice.
perhaos the decline in practice should them to be equals… at least in practice.
players get old much like this conversation. I’d like to bench this Opiv since there is noticeable decline in his argument this time.
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