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  • Bill Cody
    Registered User
    • Sep 2004
    • 11885

    #91
    Re: Move Up .... Move Down or Stand Pat

    I'm thinking there might be for the 1st time in the Ants in the Pants era that we move down, assuming a player we're targeting does not drop to us at 28.

    I think NE will probably stand pat and pick a QB at 3 BUT if they grew some very big balls and traded with Minny for 11, 23 and a 2025 1st I could see them trying to move up from 34 to 28 to take Michael Penix if he's still there. That would net us an early 4th and a mid 6th in return to move down 6 spots. Might be worth it.

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    • Woodman
      Legendary Zoner
      • Apr 2014
      • 65898

      #92
      Re: Move Up .... Move Down or Stand Pat

      Originally posted by Bill Cody View Post
      I'm thinking there might be for the 1st time in the Ants in the Pants era that we move down, assuming a player we're targeting does not drop to us at 28.

      I think NE will probably stand pat and pick a QB at 3 BUT if they grew some very big balls and traded with Minny for 11, 23 and a 2025 1st I could see them trying to move up from 34 to 28 to take Michael Penix if he's still there. That would net us an early 4th and a mid 6th in return to move down 6 spots. Might be worth it.
      QB Drake Maye is who I expect the Patriots to draft we'll soon find out.

      “It breaks your heart when someone leaves and you don’t know why.”

      "It may be raining but there's a rainbow above you"


      Former President Donald Trump early Thursday touted the results of a new NPR/PBSNewsHour/Marist poll showing him ahead of President Joe Biden by 8 percentage points among independents.

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      • Bill Cody
        Registered User
        • Sep 2004
        • 11885

        #93
        Re: Move Up .... Move Down or Stand Pat

        Originally posted by Woodman View Post
        QB Drake Maye is who I expect the Patriots to draft we'll soon find out.
        I agree that's the most likely outcome. The owner wants a QB at 3. Think the guy operating as GM there without a contract is going to go against the owner? That would take enormous stones. I'm just thinking if they get on the clock and Minnesota offers them the bag they might blink and bite.

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        • Mad Max
          Fortes Fortuna Adiuvat
          • Mar 2003
          • 6698

          #94
          Re: Move Up .... Move Down or Stand Pat

          Originally posted by Bill Cody View Post
          I agree that's the most likely outcome. The owner wants a QB at 3. Think the guy operating as GM there without a contract is going to go against the owner? That would take enormous stones. I'm just thinking if they get on the clock and Minnesota offers them the bag they might blink and bite.
          One thing is a near certainty. That is that there will be much buffoonery in chasing after these bum QBs. I’ll be finger tenting like Mr. Smithers as I bask in my schadenfreude.

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          • Woodman
            Legendary Zoner
            • Apr 2014
            • 65898

            #95
            Re: Move Up .... Move Down or Stand Pat

            Offensive line picks will be a plenty in round 1.

            Could we go in that direction if the board dictates?

            “It breaks your heart when someone leaves and you don’t know why.”

            "It may be raining but there's a rainbow above you"


            Former President Donald Trump early Thursday touted the results of a new NPR/PBSNewsHour/Marist poll showing him ahead of President Joe Biden by 8 percentage points among independents.

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            • sahlensguy
              Registered User
              • Mar 2015
              • 13467

              #96
              Re: Move Up .... Move Down or Stand Pat

              Originally posted by Woodman View Post
              Offensive line picks will be a plenty in round 1.

              Could we go in that direction if the board dictates?
              "Let the draft come to them"

              Don't force it. Don't trade up.

              Draft capitol is house money for Beane. He shouldn't be so nonchalant with it.

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              • notacon
                Registered User
                • Aug 2012
                • 32994

                #97
                Re: Move Up .... Move Down or Stand Pat

                Originally posted by kgun12 View Post
                This is about what it would cost to move up high enough to gat one of the top three WR’s, it’s not a bunch of day three picks!




                9. Buffalo Bills: WR Rome Odunze, Washington
                Mock Trade: Bills receive Pick No. 9; Bears receive Picks Nos. 28, 60 and 133 and a 2025 first-round pick

                The cost is way too much for this team!
                Unless a player like that comes in and fuels the Bills to a Super Bowl win in 2024!!!!

                The cost of moving up (or the "savings" of moving back) are irrelevant if the player you moved up for is a grand slam, or, conversely the player you moved back for (and the ones you ight have picked up in the trade) suck.

                I am not advocating for moving up OR moving back. It's silly to have preconceived notions of what is best BEFORE the picking actually starts.

                A GOOD GM (which Beane is) will be prepared for all contingencies, have a well thought our draft board (including trying to predict what other team's needs are and who they may be targeting) and ready to make a move (or stay put) depending on how the draft unfolds and doing what is best for the TEAM.

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                • Woodman
                  Legendary Zoner
                  • Apr 2014
                  • 65898

                  #98
                  Re: Move Up .... Move Down or Stand Pat

                  Well we certainly got our answer last night.

                  “It breaks your heart when someone leaves and you don’t know why.”

                  "It may be raining but there's a rainbow above you"


                  Former President Donald Trump early Thursday touted the results of a new NPR/PBSNewsHour/Marist poll showing him ahead of President Joe Biden by 8 percentage points among independents.

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                  • notacon
                    Registered User
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 32994

                    #99
                    Re: Move Up .... Move Down or Stand Pat

                    Originally posted by Woodman View Post
                    Well we certainly got our answer last night.
                    Yep. Exactly what I said....A GOOD GM (which Beane is) will be prepared for all contingencies, have a well thought our draft board (including trying to predict what other team's needs are and who they may be targeting) and ready to make a move (or stay put) depending on how the draft unfolds and doing what is best for the TEAM.

                    Trading up or down (or staying pat) in and of itself is worthless and irrelevant.

                    Who they ACTUALLY PICK is all that matters.

                    The Bills moving back will be worthless IF they do not get some good players. Same for moving up.

                    It sure looks like Beane's guy was not there at #28 (or it was too expensive or not possible to move up to get him).

                    I suspect that they had their eye on Brain Thomas, and once Jax held #23, it made it difficult to move ahead of them (and probably too expensive).

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                    • Woodman
                      Legendary Zoner
                      • Apr 2014
                      • 65898

                      Re: Move Up .... Move Down or Stand Pat

                      We moved down consistently when everybody thought the opposite would be the case ....... who is this Buffalo Bills GM disguising himself as Brandon Beane?

                      “It breaks your heart when someone leaves and you don’t know why.”

                      "It may be raining but there's a rainbow above you"


                      Former President Donald Trump early Thursday touted the results of a new NPR/PBSNewsHour/Marist poll showing him ahead of President Joe Biden by 8 percentage points among independents.

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