Bills 3rd DeWayne Carter DT

[YardRat]

Re: Bills 3rd DeWayne Carter DT

He's going to be part of a rotation, and they need bodies for that.

It's not like they've been getting difference-makers for the Dline in previous drafts (or even free agency regardless of how much $$ money they throw at them) anyway.

This kid won't start, but he'll probably play.

[sahlensguy]

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He's going to be part of a rotation, and they need bodies for that.

It's not like they've been getting difference-makers for the Dline in previous drafts (or even free agency regardless of how much $$ money they throw at them) anyway.

This kid won't start, but he'll probably play.

Yes. Get bodies later in the draft though- where we have a ton of picks.

With a 3rd round pick, draft a player with upside who could be a difference maker.

It was unfortunately a throw away pick after trading down with KC for it.

[Woodman]

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[notacon]

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A good person however he certainly is not the 1DT we need next to Oliver.

He was not drafted to be "the 1DT we need next to Oliver.".

He was drafted to be Oliver's backup, which is critical to realize the Bills rotational scheme for D-Line.

[sahlensguy]

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He was not drafted to be "the 1DT we need next to Oliver.".

He was drafted to be Oliver's backup, which is critical to realize the Bills rotational scheme for D-Line.

See, using a 3rd round pick to draft a backup, on a team with so many needs, is stupid!

[ParanoidAndroid]

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This guy is going to be a pleasant surprise for some of you.

An NFL coaching staff and off-season program is going to make him what he can be.

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See, using a 3rd round pick to draft a backup, on a team with so many needs, is stupid!

No, it's really not. "Backups" play in this defense.

[sahlensguy]

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This guy is going to be a pleasant surprise for some of you.

An NFL coaching staff and off-season program is going to make him what he can be.

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No, it's really not. "Backups" play in this defense.

An offseason program. Ha.

He has a softer, less powerful body. That ain't changing.

You can find the equivalent in later rounds

[notacon]

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See, using a 3rd round pick to draft a backup, on a team with so many needs, is stupid!

No, it's not.

The word "backup" may be throwing you off. If he succeeds he will play at least 40% of the defensive snaps.

In 2023 Oliver played the most snap counts of his career....68.1%....WAY more than any other year.

In Oliver's five years as DT, he has had the most snaps of any DT in four of those years....never topping 57.79% until 2023.

The only year he was #2 in DT snap counts was 2022, Ed had 50.14% (the fewest of his career and so few because he missed four games due to injury) and DaQuan Jones had the most, 61.18%.

Ed Olivers' snap count for each year...

2019 - 53.67
2020 - 53.97
2021 - 57.79%
2022 - 50.14%
2023 - 68.10%

The Bills DO NOT want Oliver playing 68% of the snaps. The sweet spot is LESS than 60%.

So, it is better to categorize Carter as the "rotational DT behind Oliver". "Backup" is a misleading term.

"rotational DT behind Oliver" is a CRITICAL position, so using a 3rd round pick on that position is VERY SMART!!!

[ParanoidAndroid]

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Who is Giovanni Manu? Lions did some Canadian homework.

[ParanoidAndroid]

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An offseason program. Ha.

He has a softer, less powerful body. That ain't changing.

You can find the equivalent in later rounds

What? You never seen bodies change from college into pros? Whatever, guy.

[sahlensguy]

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No, it's not.

The word "backup" may be throwing you off. If he succeeds he will play at least 40% of the defensive snaps.

In 2023 Oliver played the most snap counts of his career....68.1%....WAY more than any other year.

In Oliver's five years as DT, he has had the most snaps of any DT in four of those years....never topping 57.79% until 2023.

The only year he was #2 in DT snap counts was 2022, Ed had 50.14% (the fewest of his career and so few because he missed four games due to injury) and DaQuan Jones had the most, 61.18%.

Ed Olivers' snap count for each year...

2019 - 53.67
2020 - 53.97
2021 - 57.79%
2022 - 50.14%
2023 - 68.10%

The Bills DO NOT want Oliver playing 68% of the snaps. The sweet spot is LESS than 60%.

So, it is better to categorize Carter as the "rotational DT behind Oliver". "Backup" is a misleading term.

"rotational DT behind Oliver" is a CRITICAL position, so using a 3rd round pick on that position is VERY SMART!!!

Just because his ceiling is around 40% of the snaps doesn't mean he's any good. He lacks power and burst. He could very well get blown off the line. You can find these guys later in the draft. This was a reach. Give me a guy here with starter potential.

[Woodman]

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He's a depth player until he isn't.

[sahlensguy]

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He's a depth player until he isn't.

With a 3rd round pick?

Horrible value.

Safe pick. Nothing more.

[justasportsfan]

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He fits the culture and will make everyone else around him better

[Mad Max]

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He’s essentially gonna eat up Tim Settle’s snaps. Not sure how our DL play won’t automatically get better because of that substitution.

He may not become a star but he should settle in nicely.