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    Re: Bills 3rd DeWayne Carter DT

    This guy is going to be a pleasant surprise for some of you.

    An NFL coaching staff and off-season program is going to make him what he can be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sahlensguy View Post
    See, using a 3rd round pick to draft a backup, on a team with so many needs, is stupid!
    No, it's really not. "Backups" play in this defense.

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    Re: Bills 3rd DeWayne Carter DT

    Quote Originally Posted by ParanoidAndroid View Post
    This guy is going to be a pleasant surprise for some of you.

    An NFL coaching staff and off-season program is going to make him what he can be.

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    No, it's really not. "Backups" play in this defense.
    An offseason program. Ha.

    He has a softer, less powerful body. That ain't changing.

    You can find the equivalent in later rounds
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    Re: Bills 3rd DeWayne Carter DT

    Quote Originally Posted by sahlensguy View Post
    See, using a 3rd round pick to draft a backup, on a team with so many needs, is stupid!
    No, it's not.

    The word "backup" may be throwing you off. If he succeeds he will play at least 40% of the defensive snaps.

    In 2023 Oliver played the most snap counts of his career....68.1%....WAY more than any other year.

    In Oliver's five years as DT, he has had the most snaps of any DT in four of those years....never topping 57.79% until 2023.

    The only year he was #2 in DT snap counts was 2022, Ed had 50.14% (the fewest of his career and so few because he missed four games due to injury) and DaQuan Jones had the most, 61.18%.

    Ed Olivers' snap count for each year...

    2019 - 53.67
    2020 - 53.97
    2021 - 57.79%
    2022 - 50.14%
    2023 - 68.10%

    The Bills DO NOT want Oliver playing 68% of the snaps. The sweet spot is LESS than 60%.

    So, it is better to categorize Carter as the "rotational DT behind Oliver". "Backup" is a misleading term.

    "rotational DT behind Oliver" is a CRITICAL position, so using a 3rd round pick on that position is VERY SMART!!!

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    Re: Bills 3rd DeWayne Carter DT

    Who is Giovanni Manu? Lions did some Canadian homework.

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    Re: Bills 3rd DeWayne Carter DT

    Quote Originally Posted by sahlensguy View Post
    An offseason program. Ha.

    He has a softer, less powerful body. That ain't changing.

    You can find the equivalent in later rounds
    What? You never seen bodies change from college into pros? Whatever, guy.

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    Re: Bills 3rd DeWayne Carter DT

    Quote Originally Posted by notacon View Post
    No, it's not.

    The word "backup" may be throwing you off. If he succeeds he will play at least 40% of the defensive snaps.

    In 2023 Oliver played the most snap counts of his career....68.1%....WAY more than any other year.

    In Oliver's five years as DT, he has had the most snaps of any DT in four of those years....never topping 57.79% until 2023.

    The only year he was #2 in DT snap counts was 2022, Ed had 50.14% (the fewest of his career and so few because he missed four games due to injury) and DaQuan Jones had the most, 61.18%.

    Ed Olivers' snap count for each year...

    2019 - 53.67
    2020 - 53.97
    2021 - 57.79%
    2022 - 50.14%
    2023 - 68.10%

    The Bills DO NOT want Oliver playing 68% of the snaps. The sweet spot is LESS than 60%.

    So, it is better to categorize Carter as the "rotational DT behind Oliver". "Backup" is a misleading term.

    "rotational DT behind Oliver" is a CRITICAL position, so using a 3rd round pick on that position is VERY SMART!!!
    Just because his ceiling is around 40% of the snaps doesn't mean he's any good. He lacks power and burst. He could very well get blown off the line. You can find these guys later in the draft. This was a reach. Give me a guy here with starter potential.

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    Re: Bills 3rd DeWayne Carter DT

    He's a depth player until he isn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman View Post
    He's a depth player until he isn't.
    With a 3rd round pick?

    Horrible value.

    Safe pick. Nothing more.

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    He fits the culture and will make everyone else around him better

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    Re: Bills 3rd DeWayne Carter DT

    He’s essentially gonna eat up Tim Settle’s snaps. Not sure how our DL play won’t automatically get better because of that substitution.

    He may not become a star but he should settle in nicely.

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    Re: Bills 3rd DeWayne Carter DT

    Quote Originally Posted by Mad Max View Post
    He’s essentially gonna eat up Tim Settle’s snaps. Not sure how our DL play won’t automatically get better because of that substitution.

    He may not become a star but he should settle in nicely.
    i see what you did there.
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    Re: Bills 3rd DeWayne Carter DT

    Quote Originally Posted by sahlensguy View Post
    With a 3rd round pick?

    Horrible value.

    Safe pick. Nothing more.
    I'm just suggesting we have our "starters" locked in .... he has a rotational roll.

    Every team has a similar situation "starters" and depth.

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