“We know this much: The Bills aren’t scared anymore.” Ty Dunne. Article enclosed.

[DetoxTent]

Re: “We know this much: The Bills aren’t scared anymore.” Ty Dunne. Article enclosed.

I'm sorry, I've kind of hit my limit of frustration with this team specifically and the league in general. I'll try to be more "Rah! Rah! We're the best!!" in the future.

Nah. There's way too many homers here already. We like people being realistic. And compared with the Eagles draft, Beane looks like a novice. This draft is, well, being as upbeat as I can, is underwhelming.

Others have suggested in the past, take Josh Allen away from the equation and Beane's drafting is highly suspect.

[DetoxTent]

Re: “We know this much: The Bills aren’t scared anymore.” Ty Dunne. Article enclosed.

If they were fearless they’d have hired a HC who doesn’t repeatedly fail

2024 has to be his last hurrah if he cannot coach his team past KC. He's been given a lot of rope.

[Mad Max]

Re: “We know this much: The Bills aren’t scared anymore.” Ty Dunne. Article enclosed.

Nah. There's way too many homers here already. We like people being realistic. And compared with the Eagles draft, Beane looks like a novice. This draft is, well, being as upbeat as I can, is underwhelming.

Others have suggested in the past, take Josh Allen away from the equation and Beane's drafting is highly suspect.

Beanie has done ok not great you’re right. He needs to score more stars.

The Chiefs by comparison have had more star level selections (those stars are the difference makers that brought them three rings):

Chris Jones
Tyreke
Mahomes
Mcduffie
Humphrey

[Bill Cody]

Re: “We know this much: The Bills aren’t scared anymore.” Ty Dunne. Article enclosed.

Oh please...

Fearless? No.

Fearless would have been taking Coleman at 28 because you were convinced that he was the best wr of the group.

Fearless would have been drafting athletes with upside over safe, back up players with leadership qualities. And football players over the Gran Turismo guy.

I suspect the Bills had Coleman and Leggette rated about the same. I suspect that was close to how most evaluators had them rated, it happens. Coleman is slow, Leggette is a one hit wonder. So what do you do in that case? Pass on extra picks to look "fearless"? Not following your criticism there.

The funny thing about your other comments is Beane is constantly being criticized for doing exactly what you say he didn't do this year. He's always picking the uber athletes instead of higher production/character guys. Sounds like he can't win.

[Bill Cody]

Re: “We know this much: The Bills aren’t scared anymore.” Ty Dunne. Article enclosed.

And the Bills are in your head. Using the compensation of the 3rd round pick on a backup at best, is bad value

Not really. The odds of a 3rd rounder becoming a quality NFL starter are about 16%. If you get a guy taking 40% of the snaps and doing a good job with them that's above average. I doubt Carter will be a total bust, probably a fairly useful player at a position we needed depth.

[sahlensguy]

Re: “We know this much: The Bills aren’t scared anymore.” Ty Dunne. Article enclosed.

I suspect the Bills had Coleman and Leggette rated about the same. I suspect that was close to how most evaluators had them rated, it happens. Coleman is slow, Leggette is a one hit wonder. So what do you do in that case? Pass on extra picks to look "fearless"? Not following your criticism there.

The funny thing about your other comments is Beane is constantly being criticized for doing exactly what you say he didn't do this year. He's always picking the uber athletes instead of higher production/character guys. Sounds like he can't win.

My criticism was calling him fearless for trading back, but you didn't want to hear that.

And which Uber athletes from past drafts was I highly critical of?

[sahlensguy]

Re: “We know this much: The Bills aren’t scared anymore.” Ty Dunne. Article enclosed.

Not really. The odds of a 3rd rounder becoming a quality NFL starter are about 16%. If you get a guy taking 40% of the snaps and doing a good job with them that's above average. I doubt Carter will be a total bust, probably a fairly useful player at a position we needed depth.

What are the odds of a 3rd rounder sticking if he has starting potential vs a 3rd rounder who has only backup potential??

[Bill Cody]

Re: “We know this much: The Bills aren’t scared anymore.” Ty Dunne. Article enclosed.

What are the odds of a 3rd rounder sticking if he has starting potential vs a 3rd rounder who has only backup potential??

Lol

Don't know. Don't care.

[Bill Cody]

Re: “We know this much: The Bills aren’t scared anymore.” Ty Dunne. Article enclosed.

My criticism was calling him fearless for trading back, but you didn't want to hear that.

And which Uber athletes from past drafts was I highly critical of?

I don't think he was fearless for trading back. Just doing what was right for the team under the circumstances.

I wasn't referring to you specifically criticizing the uber athletes drafted but he certainly has been by a number of posters here, you know that. My point is no matter what he does some will be unhappy.

[sahlensguy]

Re: “We know this much: The Bills aren’t scared anymore.” Ty Dunne. Article enclosed.

I don't think he was fearless for trading back. Just doing what was right for the team under the circumstances.

I wasn't referring to you specifically criticizing the uber athletes drafted but he certainly has been by a number of posters here, you know that. My point is no matter what he does some will be unhappy.

I didn't say I was unhappy he traded back. Nor can you come up with past Uber athletic picks I was unhappy with for being Uber athletic.

Good job!

[YardRat]

Re: “We know this much: The Bills aren’t scared anymore.” Ty Dunne. Article enclosed.

I suspect the Bills had Coleman and Leggette rated about the same. I suspect that was close to how most evaluators had them rated, it happens. Coleman is slow, Leggette is a one hit wonder. So what do you do in that case? Pass on extra picks to look "fearless"? Not following your criticism there.

The funny thing about your other comments is Beane is constantly being criticized for doing exactly what you say he didn't do this year. He's always picking the uber athletes instead of higher production/character guys. Sounds like he can't win.

I am somebody that criticizes Beane for leaning toward 'freak' attributes and/or measurables, but I will admit a couple of his picks this year were more from the "just plays ball" mold. Looking forward to seeing how they pan out. And it still wasn't smart to double-up on OTs, I don't care if the kid from England is "only" a seventh-rounder. I would have preferred another receiver if we were going to take more than one kick at a position.