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  • mchurchfie
    Registered User
    • Jul 2002
    • 13418

    To the ones that are whining about Henry..



    Deal with it !!
    Last edited by mchurchfie; 09-23-2002, 09:24 AM.
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  • shawn
    Registered User
    • Jul 2002
    • 35

    #2
    It stinks. If Henry didn't fumble the Bills might have won the game. Too bad Henry is like a little baby, he didn't have what it takes to hang onto the ball.

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    • mchurchfie
      Registered User
      • Jul 2002
      • 13418

      #3
      He is just part of the reason why we lost. If our defense would have stopped the Broncs on 4 & 5 we probably would have won too. It is funny how you guys are willing to cut every other facet of the game a break but you are dogging him for a bad play that he made. He is going to be a good back, you can't just waive him the next day because he has fumbled a few times. Sure it's a backbreaker but so is it when the D holds a team to 3rd and 13 and the they give up 20 or 30 yards for a first down.
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      • LABillsFan
        Registered User
        • Aug 2002
        • 4418

        #4
        It's not his fault solely, why the Bills lost. BUT, he does put the rock on the ground alot.
        I've said it before and I'll say it again, I don't repeat myself.

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        • Buffarama
          Football-Sport of the Gods
          • Jul 2002
          • 1231

          #5
          Too bad Henry is like a little baby Shawn? What are you talking about? Cause he fumbled, he's like a little baby? Get real. That has got to be the dumbest post I ever read on here.

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          • SABURZFAN
            short bus extraordinaire
            • Jul 2002
            • 50747

            #6
            s*** happens
            Originally posted by yordad
            Christ, you are the queerest person in the history of Bills fanhood. I swear to god I would stomp you.

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            • LtBillsFan66
              Registered User
              • Jul 2002
              • 35553

              #7
              Originally posted by mchurchfie
              He is just part of the reason why we lost.
              But a reason nonetheless. So don't get upset when you see posts about it.

              Is anyone defending Watson? No. There were plenty of reasons we lost. Overall, we held up against one of the best teams in the league.

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              • Wys Guy
                Drew and Sam stole all my hair
                • Jul 2002
                • 9450

                #8
                What?

                We're supposed to be excited and Happy just b/c we have Henry on our roster and because he's named Travis Henry regardless of what or how he contributes to winning games?

                I don't get it!

                OK nonetheless. I'll play along.

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                WOW!!! Did you guys see Henry this week! AWESOME! He had three carries all on one drive for 25 of his 35 yards. He's FINALLY coming around to be the type of RB that we really need on this team.

                Now, if he can only put up 30 or 40 yards v. Chicago, then we REALLY have a chance at winning that game. Great choice to make him the starter. I don't know what everyone else is thinking about. There are no other RBs on our roster who can average 2 or 3 ypc and put up 35 yards consistently like that.

                Great call on Henry. I really think that he'll have well over 700 yards again by the end of the year. Hopefully he'll have half of that in 3 games v. Detroit, the Jets, and Houston like he did last year!

                Boy oh Boy! I'm surely excited to see him run it up like that every week.

                WOOHOO!!!

                Come on Travis! Here's lookin' forward to next week w/ 3 carries for 30 yards and 12 more on another 15 carries!!

                Go Travis Go!!!
                Replace Donahoe with Modrak and fire the entire coaching staff!

                Then let's go to Disneyworld!

                GO BILLS!!!

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                • Wys Guy
                  Drew and Sam stole all my hair
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 9450

                  #9
                  "Run Travis Run!"

                  Replace Donahoe with Modrak and fire the entire coaching staff!

                  Then let's go to Disneyworld!

                  GO BILLS!!!

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                  • mchurchfie
                    Registered User
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 13418

                    #10
                    Originally posted by BillsFanOne


                    But a reason nonetheless. So don't get upset when you see posts about it.

                    Is anyone defending Watson? No. There were plenty of reasons we lost. Overall, we held up against one of the best teams in the league.

                    Trust me, I'm not getting upset about it. Actually I find it kind of humorous about how some people are OBSESSED with him and use them as their "whipping boy". Your last point you made was good though and actually what I have been trying to say so at least you are half correct.
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                    • Wys Guy
                      Drew and Sam stole all my hair
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 9450

                      #11
                      church,

                      It does get a little old watching us give up 45 yards in penalties each week b/c of Watson's poor coverage or stupid penalties.

                      Yesterday he had a P.I. for 11 yards, and then a defensive holding to give the Broncos a first down on a 3rd and 7 from their own 35. That's the drive they went on to score the TD to Carswell!

                      Last week in Minnesota Watson had another P.I. for 8 yards on a Minnesota 3rd and 2 to give them a 1st down late in the 2nd Q that eventually set up a 44 yd. FG try. There were also numerous plays on which Watson wasn't flagged but could have, and should have been by all rights.

                      He needs a clinic on how to tackle as well. I simply don't understand how anyone can defend this man's play! It isn't good!
                      Replace Donahoe with Modrak and fire the entire coaching staff!

                      Then let's go to Disneyworld!

                      GO BILLS!!!

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                      • mchurchfie
                        Registered User
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 13418

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Wys Guy
                        What?

                        We're supposed to be excited and Happy just b/c we have Henry on our roster and because he's named Travis Henry regardless of what or how he contributes to winning games?

                        I don't get it!

                        OK nonetheless. I'll play along.

                        ------

                        WOW!!! Did you guys see Henry this week! AWESOME! He had three carries all on one drive for 25 of his 35 yards. He's FINALLY coming around to be the type of RB that we really need on this team.

                        Now, if he can only put up 30 or 40 yards v. Chicago, then we REALLY have a chance at winning that game. Great choice to make him the starter. I don't know what everyone else is thinking about. There are no other RBs on our roster who can average 2 or 3 ypc and put up 35 yards consistently like that.

                        Great call on Henry. I really think that he'll have well over 700 yards again by the end of the year. Hopefully he'll have half of that in 3 games v. Detroit, the Jets, and Houston like he did last year!

                        Boy oh Boy! I'm surely excited to see him run it up like that every week.

                        WOOHOO!!!

                        Come on Travis! Here's lookin' forward to next week w/ 3 carries for 30 yards and 12 more on another 15 carries!!

                        Go Travis Go!!!
                        Hey, I never said that you had to be excited and happy, that seems to be unchartered territory in your book anyways. Please give me your alternatives to not using him...Bryson? Oh yeah, we'll run pitchouts for the rest of the year seeing as to that is about all that he knows how to run. Go ahead and waive Henry and see how long he lasts before he gets scooped up.


                        The 30 yards on 3 carries is what he can do when he gets good blocking. He also made something out of nothing when on his TD run. It is those slow developing outside running plays and his limited chances of running the ball that have contributed to his stats. I AGREE, he needs to protect the ball better.

                        Hell, everyone is being patient with all other facets of our game that are screwing up why does he have to be the second coming of Thurman in his second year.
                        It is amazing how well you spin and twist things to support your forecasts of doom and gloom for this team. You have been spinning so hard that I am surprised the Earth hasn't reversed it's rotation. Here is a picture of The good ole Bandwagon when The Bills start winning and you are ready to hop on...



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                        • Wys Guy
                          Drew and Sam stole all my hair
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 9450

                          #13
                          RBs don't always get good blocking. That's just a fact in the NFL. Are you tellin' us that every single yard gained by all the RBs yesterday were the result of good blocking?? I don't think so. Portis gained quite a few yards on sweeps which you and others casually dismiss as inviable in the NFL. Levens and Roger Craig made livings off of those along w/ a whole bunch of other RBs!

                          "Hey, I never said that you had to be excited and happy, that seems to be unchartered territory in your book anyways."

                          Apparently you didn't see too many of my posts last year, eh!

                          I actually think I'm being quite optimistic. At least what I am optimistic about is founded and factual instead of having hopes hinged on the play of a player in only 25% of his games and against the worst rush Ds too boot.

                          In the meantime, if Henry can only run w/ huge holes, then I'm sure Bryson can do the same. You and others dismiss the play of Henry b/c he only had 12 carries on the basis that you can't see how good he is on only 12 carries. What I'm saying is at least be consistent w/in your own logic then.

                          Bryson's had more than 12 carries only 6 times in his career, with 4 of those times being 13, 14, 15, and 16 carries, which I assume isn't that much more fair. Nonetheless, in those 6 games he's outplayed Henry. He's had 105 carries for 462 yards and a 4.4 ypc average.

                          So how on earth do you completely and entirely dismiss Bryson as sucking?

                          I just don't get it. You can't use one set of critieria on one back and then completely dismiss that set in favor of another based solely on emotional subjectivity! Yet that's exactly what you are doing.

                          I also seem to think that a little competition for Mr. Henry might go a LONG way into trying to get him to try a little harder!

                          BTW, did you happen to miss that clip that the announcers showed, oh, BTW, on national TV against Minnesota last week, that showed how Henry completely missed a hole the size of his body which was CLEARLY right in front of him slightly to the right before running headlong into his own blockers and a wall of defenders to his left? Did ya happen to catch that. As was clearly detectable, not to mention stated by the announcers, if he had picked the hole instead of the wall, he would have had a HUGE gain! So please don't say he has no holes. He also has misses some. That wasn't the only play either.

                          There's nothing wrong w/ platooning Bryson and Henry to see what happens. If Bryson happens to run better, then great. If he sucks like you say, then I surely don't see how we'll be the worse off. I don't think too many backs would have any difficultly rushing for 24 carries for 65 yards, w/ 42 of those coming on 4 carries, leaving a 20 carries for 23 yards after that. Such a running game, unless he scores each time on those long runs, is of no use to us. We need a ball carrier who can move the ball w/ consistency when counted upon. Henry, so far, has proven, in 16 games, that he cannot do that.

                          Will he do it? Perhaps. But I'm not counting chickens before he does. I'd like to win games here.
                          Replace Donahoe with Modrak and fire the entire coaching staff!

                          Then let's go to Disneyworld!

                          GO BILLS!!!

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                          • Wys Guy
                            Drew and Sam stole all my hair
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 9450

                            #14
                            He stunk up the preseason too against mostly teams that have no rush Ds. I didn't even count those.

                            How many games will you allow him before saying we need to try something a little different? 2 more. 3.

                            What if he only has one good game every 4 weeks or so on average and then only vs. teams that have no significant rush D? Is that considered good? If not, what do we do about it?
                            Replace Donahoe with Modrak and fire the entire coaching staff!

                            Then let's go to Disneyworld!

                            GO BILLS!!!

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                            • THATHURMANATOR
                              Registered User
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 69112

                              #15
                              WYS has changed the focus of his hatred from Drew to TH. I agree that he needs to hold onto the ball. I also feel he is going to be a quality back in the near future.

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