Things I didn't know about Gilbride

**SABURZFAN** · 11-02-2003, 06:00 PM

we need buddy ryan.he could smack Gee Dubya around too.:snicker2:

**socalfan** · 11-02-2003, 06:02 PM

It's no wonder Buddy quit Houston after that year. I don't think he could hit KG hard enough to satisfy him.

WG · 11-02-2003, 07:50 PM

How come nobody picked up on this a couple of weeks ago when I pointed out that like 48 drives had ended on third down passing plays, yet it takes an official article to grasp that reality?

Poor, poor Bills fans....

WG · 11-02-2003, 07:52 PM

Re: Things I didn't know about Gilbride

Originally posted by socalfan
In the Bflo Evening news story, is the most condemning write up of Gilbride to date. The statistics would even wow Wys.

Gilbride Statistics

Did you know -

4 - Did you know that Gilbride has never got a team beyond the first round of the playoffs.

There is more in the article.....

Also everyone knows that Buddy Ryan tried to punch out Kevin Gibride during a game, .....did you know Buddy also connected with another assistant coach, who happened to also coach for the Bills...

On 4, yes, yes I did! Did you know that I pointed that out when we hired him and was lambasted for "being an idiot"...

Do you know why Ryan punched out KG?

That answer won't shock you at all....

**Dozerdog** · 11-02-2003, 07:58 PM

Not to defend Gilbride in the Comeback game, but the RUN AND SHOOT offense is designed around throwing the ball 75% of the time. it has no tight ends- it has 4 wides for every play- including goal line formations.

The ONLY running play in the run and shot is the draw play. That's it.

**socalfan** · 11-02-2003, 08:00 PM

Originally posted by Dozerdog
Not to defend Gilbride in the Comeback game, but the RUN AND SHOOT offense is designed around throwing the ball 75% of the time. it has no tight ends- it has 4 wides for every play- including goal line formations.

The ONLY running play in the run and shot is the draw play. That's it.

It seems to be that the run and shoot aka chuck and duck is probably not the best strategy to use throughout a game. Otherwise the defensive coordinator might deck ya.

WG · 11-02-2003, 08:06 PM

A strong rushing game combined w/ solid D are the hallmarks of championship teams. Passing games are an added plus, but rarely the reason why teams win conference or league championships.

**Dozerdog** · 11-02-2003, 08:09 PM

Originally posted by socalfan
It seems to be that the run and shoot aka chuck and duck is probably not the best strategy to use throughout a game. Otherwise the defensive coordinator might deck ya.

Again, not to defend it- but it did take 2 teams to the playoffs numerous years (Oilers, Lions and the Falcons employed it as well.

It racked up 500 yards and 50 points on a lot of teams. Eventually, DB's and defenses evolved to handle it.

**socalfan** · 11-02-2003, 08:11 PM

Originally posted by Dozerdog
Again, not to defend it- but it did take 2 teams tot he playoffs numerous years (oilers, Lions0 and the Falcons employed it as well.

It racked up 500 yards and 50 points on a lot of teams. Eventually, DB's and defenses evolved to handle it.

Zone blitzing in particular caused it plenty of problems.

**Dozerdog** · 11-02-2003, 08:18 PM

Hmmm... And Dick LeBeau supposedly is the father of the Zone blitz-

....and here I was led to beleive by folks that LeBeau was a complete bum....

WG · 11-02-2003, 08:23 PM

Why then, w/ his marvelous "invention", were his Ds consistently ranked in the bottom few of the league?

Not bottom half, but 3 times dead last if I'm not mistaken and usually amongst the worst 3 or 4?

Guess while he invented it, he doesn't know how to use it, eh.

And we were led to believe he did...

**socalfan** · 11-02-2003, 08:23 PM

Well in MA you can't be getting the Buffalo papers, so it must be rumors from the BZ that you are referencing. I thought most still think highly of him as a defensive coordinator. I wonder how good the Bills would be if he were calling the defensive plays?

WG · 11-02-2003, 08:26 PM

Originally posted by Dozerdog

Again, not to defend it- but it did take 2 teams to the playoffs numerous years (Oilers, Lions and the Falcons employed it as well.

It racked up 500 yards and 50 points on a lot of teams. Eventually, DB's and defenses evolved to handle it.

Fans put way too much emphasis on "making it to the playoffs" instead of concerning themselves with whether or not they have the talent to win the big one.

No one knows better than Bills fans that simply winning a conference championship is not that much better than winning a divisional PO game if you can't "punch it in!"

Yet, it often seems that those are lessons long forgotten...

Besides, in today's league, "making it to the playoffs" often happens by accident for one or two teams each season. Other teams "backing out", or injuries late in the season, etc.

Why is "making it" to the POs such a great feat, especially when you're one of the last ones in?

WG · 11-02-2003, 08:28 PM

Originally posted by socalfan
Well in MA you can't be getting the Buffalo papers, so it must be rumors from the BZ that you are referencing. I thought most still think highly of him as a defensive coordinator. I wonder how good the Bills would be if he were calling the defensive plays?

How do you know he isn't?

Seems to me this D was nearly this good last year. Why, with Spikes now, Adams, Posey, Milloy, are we only marginally better? We should be incredibly better, no?

Perhaps the reason we aren't is b/c of LeBeau. It's quite possible.

Things I didn't know about Gilbride

Things I didn't know about Gilbride

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