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    Is Spikes a bust?

    Your giving up yards after yards in the running game? The same thing was happening last year and Spikes was brought in to stop it.

    What is going on?
    I'm lost.

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    Crappy D-Ends.

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    TKO is no bust man.


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    The Bills have cut the number of rushing yards per game. I believe the Bills have had only two games in which the opponent ran for more than 100 yds.

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    He can't do it all alone. Sam Adams hasn't been as strong as promised and our DE's are rather light and easily pushed around.

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    i'd like to think sam adams is our big "bust" move of the off season. the guy is outta shape, runs his mouth too much, and thinks he still has game.

    adams was a bad pickup in my opinion.


    as for spikes, i wouldnt call him a bust. maybe if our d line got a hand on a back once and a while, he wouldnt be so wore down from running all the time(same goes for fletcher and posey).

    spikes isnt the bust- the entire d-line is.

    no pass rush + no run stop= tired linebackers and secondary.

    i've yet to see spikes lay off a p;ay this year, but have seen the d-line give no effort at times.

    put the blame where it lays.
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    This is common sense and TD should have figured this out last year.

    All I remember is getting lambasted for even remotely suggesting that OLBs weren't going to make up for the lack of a true pass rush and more particularly for a crap DL.

    It's so obvious yet TD can't seem to put it together, which again, tells me that perhaps it's time for a new GM.

    Nothing's wrong w/ TKO and even if there is we'll never know until we get a line in front of him.
    Replace Donahoe with Modrak and fire the entire coaching staff!

    Then let's go to Disneyworld!

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    Re: Is Spikes a bust?

    Originally posted by XNOUGHT
    Your giving up yards after yards in the running game? The same thing was happening last year and Spikes was brought in to stop it.

    What is going on?
    Are you saying it wasn't Eddie Robinson's fault! Take it back.

    P.S. Seemed to make a difference in Patriots game, don't you agree?

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    The guy that concerns me is Fletcher. He isn't having a bad year, I guess I just expected more.

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    Yes, I too expected him to fly around the stadium in his cape, savin damsels in distress. too bad all he can do is tackle like a machine and make plays. what a loser he is. kill him!!!
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    Oh, and if you think spikes is a bust, you were most likely a Rob Johnson supporter....Oh! sorry Wys, nothing personal. ha ha DBs

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    The problem is the offense goes 3 and out.

    In games where the time of posession and the amount of plays between the Bills and their opponents are even, then the Bills defense does mor ethan hold it's own.

    But there have been some games out there where the opposition has had a 2-1 edge in time of possession, and has just been able to run more plays. look at Miami- Miami didn't do much offensively- they racked up all those yards because they were given twice the opportunities to run plays- why was that? Because the offense was 3 and out every damn play. Same with the Philly and Jet games.

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    The coaching staff is a bust. TKO is one hell of a LB.
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    Originally posted by The_Philster
    He can't do it all alone. Sam Adams hasn't been as strong as promised and our DE's are rather light and easily pushed around.
    Short and to the point. I said that our DEs were the problem way back in preseaon after seeing it firsthand in the game against the Ravens.



    Originally posted by loyal2dagame
    i'd like to think sam adams is our big "bust" move of the off season. the guy is outta shape, runs his mouth too much, and thinks he still has game.

    adams was a bad pickup in my opinion.


    as for spikes, i wouldnt call him a bust. maybe if our d line got a hand on a back once and a while, he wouldnt be so wore down from running all the time(same goes for fletcher and posey).

    spikes isnt the bust- the entire d-line is.

    no pass rush + no run stop= tired linebackers and secondary.

    i've yet to see spikes lay off a p;ay this year, but have seen the d-line give no effort at times.

    put the blame where it lays.
    It's the DL more than the LBs! Once we get more stability at the DE position, we'll see better production out of our LBs. I still believe that this is a very good group of LBs.

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    From NFL.com, Buffalo's defensive stats:

    Total defence: Yards per game-279 - NFL rank -#3

    Rushing defence: Yards per game-11 - NFL rank -#15
    Yards per carry-3.9 - NFL Rank -tied at #9
    with 4 other teams

    Passing defence: Yards per game-168 -NFL rank -#1
    Percentage - 55.8% - NFL rank -#6

    There is obviously room for improvement in Buffalo's rushing defence, but it's improved from where it was. If Milloy, Posey, Spikes, and Adams are all busts as various people allege, our defence would not be #3 overall. One can argue about each one of these acquisitions that they should be doing more. We can debate whether it's the player or the coaching, or whether they just need more time to gel, but it looks to me like they're at least moving in the right direction.

    BTW, Xnought, congratulations on your Dolphins having the second ranked rushing defence (first in YPC). I can't knock that.
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    Originally posted by TigerJ
    From NFL.com, Buffalo's defensive stats:

    Total defence: Yards per game-279 - NFL rank -#3

    Rushing defence: Yards per game-11 - NFL rank -#15
    Yards per carry-3.9 - NFL Rank -tied at #9
    with 4 other teams

    Passing defence: Yards per game-168 -NFL rank -#1
    Percentage - 55.8% - NFL rank -#6

    There is obviously room for improvement in Buffalo's rushing defence, but it's improved from where it was. If Milloy, Posey, Spikes, and Adams are all busts as various people allege, our defence would not be #3 overall. One can argue about each one of these acquisitions that they should be doing more. We can debate whether it's the player or the coaching, or whether they just need more time to gel, but it looks to me like they're at least moving in the right direction.

    BTW, Xnought, congratulations on your Dolphins having the second ranked rushing defence (first in YPC). I can't knock that.
    If the "O" could stay on the field a little more these numbers would even be better.

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    Originally posted by loyal2dagame
    i'd like to think sam adams is our big "bust" move of the off season. the guy is outta shape, runs his mouth too much, and thinks he still has game.

    adams was a bad pickup in my opinion.


    as for spikes, i wouldnt call him a bust. maybe if our d line got a hand on a back once and a while, he wouldnt be so wore down from running all the time(same goes for fletcher and posey).

    spikes isnt the bust- the entire d-line is.

    no pass rush + no run stop= tired linebackers and secondary.

    i've yet to see spikes lay off a p;ay this year, but have seen the d-line give no effort at times.

    put the blame where it lays.
    I totally agree.

    (Where were you last summer when a bunch of us were getting chastised for saying these same things? Defender of the Defense)

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    Originally posted by Dozerdog
    The problem is the offense goes 3 and out.
    I agree... everything keeps revolving around to Gilbride

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    Originally posted by TigerJ
    From NFL.com, Buffalo's defensive stats:

    Total defence: Yards per game-279 - NFL rank -#3

    Rushing defence: Yards per game-11 - NFL rank -#15
    Yards per carry-3.9 - NFL Rank -tied at #9
    with 4 other teams

    Passing defence: Yards per game-168 -NFL rank -#1
    Percentage - 55.8% - NFL rank -#6

    There is obviously room for improvement in Buffalo's rushing defence, but it's improved from where it was. If Milloy, Posey, Spikes, and Adams are all busts as various people allege, our defence would not be #3 overall. One can argue about each one of these acquisitions that they should be doing more. We can debate whether it's the player or the coaching, or whether they just need more time to gel, but it looks to me like they're at least moving in the right direction.

    BTW, Xnought, congratulations on your Dolphins having the second ranked rushing defence (first in YPC). I can't knock that.
    Great post!

    Add in Dick LeBeau, and this defense is Miles ahead of where it was last season. people poo-poo Adams- but in the game he missed due to injury, Curtis Martin ran right through huis replacements- Edwards and Sape. It's not Adam's fault the Bills can only use up less than 2 minutes per possession before punting.

    Toss in Adams and LeBeau to your ridiculous "Bust" pile.

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