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  • HenryRules
    • Jul 2002
    • 2757

    #16
    Originally posted by RedEyE
    Deion Sanders should top that overrated list.
    What???

    He's hands down the best return man ever (there can be no dispute in that).

    He's hands down the best cover corner of his generation (again, no dispute).

    What does he need to do? If your corners are integral to your run D, your front 7 sucks.

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    • BillyT92679
      Registered User
      • Jul 2002
      • 1478

      #17
      Anybody remember Andre Tippett by the way? He was a heck of a player for the Patsies; he's got a hundred career sacks.
      Let's Go BILLS and SU ORANGE![IMhttp://www.billszone.com/fanzone/attachment.php?attachmentid=&stc=1G]

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      • HenryRules
        • Jul 2002
        • 2757

        #18
        I say Eddie George as overrated.

        I never saw that much in that guy at all - he hasn't had too many seasons where he's been any better than mediocre.

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        • Historian
          2020-2023 AFC East Champions!
          • Dec 2002
          • 61897

          #19
          Underrated Bills:

          Jim Ritcher
          Joe Devlin
          Rob Riddick

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          • Mr. Cynical
            Maybe?
            • Oct 2003
            • 9766

            #20
            Terrell Davis was a great back IMO. HoF? That's debatable with such a short career. Yes he had a great line, but TD still had to have the moves, power and speed to take advantage of it. Not to mention his open field running which is all him, not the oline. Had he stayed healthy I bet he would have been a lock for the HoF.

            Yes, Barry was an amazing back, one of the best to ever play the position. Nobody had his moves or ability to make people look silly. I don't think he was overrated, but....he wasn't without his faults either. If you look at his *median* average and not his mean, you will see a very different story. -2, -5, 3, 4, 80, 4, -3, 70, etc. Say what you will but that can be a liability as well. Personally I would rather have a Payton where you knew you were going to get yards on a more consistent basis. He was, IMHO, the greatest back who ever laced them up.

            Michael Irvin was overrated IMO.

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            • Bill Brasky
              Drives an ice cream truck covered in human skulls
              • Jan 2004
              • 66218

              #21
              Originally posted by HenryRules
              I say Eddie George as overrated.

              I never saw that much in that guy at all - he hasn't had too many seasons where he's been any better than mediocre.
              7 out of 8 seasons over 1,000 yards?... five of those he got nearly over 1300... if 1300 is mediocre then I guess Henry's 1st two years were lackluster.

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              • Parrotfish
                Registered User
                • Sep 2003
                • 14

                #22
                Overrated

                Jeff Bostic
                Emmitt Smith
                Cornelius Bennett
                Derrick Thomas
                John Offerdahl

                Underrated

                Jim Plunkett
                Seth Joyner
                Joe Klecko
                Darryl Talley
                Bert Jones

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                • HenryRules
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 2757

                  #23
                  Originally posted by jfreeman
                  7 out of 8 seasons over 1,000 yards?... five of those he got nearly over 1300... if 1300 is mediocre then I guess Henry's 1st two years were lackluster.
                  How many carries did he have those years? 520?

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                  • Earthquake Enyart
                    Legendary Zoner
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 27521

                    #24
                    Originally posted by BillyT92679
                    Who would all of you put on a most overrated/most underrated team from say 1979 to now? Pick five players a piece.

                    Overrated
                    Terrell Davis
                    Kurt Warner
                    Dan Hampton
                    Zach Thomas
                    Michael Irvin

                    Underrated
                    David Krieg
                    Bernie Kosar
                    Andre Tippett
                    Art Monk
                    Andre Reed

                    You obviously never saw Dan Hampton play. He was a monster.

                    In 79 OJ was way overrated for us to get all those draft picks for him.

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                    • Jan Reimers
                      Thank You, Terry and Kim, for Saving the Bills. Now, Work on the Sabres.
                      • May 2003
                      • 17353

                      #25
                      I hate to say it, but Ruben Brown would be on my overrated list.
                      Should have known, way back in 1960 when we drafted Richie Lucas Number 1, that this would be a long, hard ride. But who could have known it would be THIS bad?

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                      • Bill Brasky
                        Drives an ice cream truck covered in human skulls
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 66218

                        #26
                        Originally posted by HenryRules
                        How many carries did he have those years? 520?
                        Actually his career avg is somewhere around 3.7 or 3.8 which is normal. Emmitt Smith is suppossedly the "greatest back of all time" and his career avg. is right around 4.

                        George is more of a physical back.

                        My overrated list would def. have --

                        Keyshawn Johnson - What has he done other than run his mouth?
                        Warren Sapp - See above. statistically one of the worst tackles in the game
                        Duante Culpepper - Turnover machine.

                        I known I will get lynched for this one but I'd also put Vick on my list. Yes, the guy is a superb athlete and obviously can take over a game, but when you look at his numbers he has one of the worst completion percentages in the NFL. Plus people basically say he's reinvented the NFL -- he's only played a season's worth of games in his career. If you compare him to guys like Culpepper or McNabb he has very similar numbers.

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                        • tampabay25690
                          Registered User
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 9670

                          #27
                          Re: Overrated-underrated players since 1979

                          Originally posted by BillyT92679
                          Who would all of you put on a most overrated/most underrated team from say 1979 to now? Pick five players a piece.

                          Overrated
                          Terrell Davis
                          Kurt Warner
                          Dan Hampton
                          Zach Thomas
                          Michael Irvin

                          Underrated
                          David Krieg
                          Bernie Kosar
                          Andre Tippett
                          Art Monk
                          Andre Reed
                          Terrell Davis was not overrated at all, if he wasn't hurt he wopuld be one of the best ever.....
                          GO Gators!!!!!!
                          GO GATORS!!

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                          • tampabay25690
                            Registered User
                            • Feb 2004
                            • 9670

                            #28
                            Underratted

                            Hines Ward
                            GO Gators!!!!!!
                            GO GATORS!!

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                            • TheGhostofJimKelly
                              Registered User
                              • May 2003
                              • 12459

                              #29
                              These kind of things are really stupid. When someone has an opinion, another person shoots it down. I believe Bruce Smith is overrated. I will get responses that I am nuts because I felt that when he went up against the great tackles he was shut down.


                              So here is my overrated list:

                              1. Sacks
                              2. The Miami Dolphins
                              3. The Jills
                              4. Dan Marino - I know, someone will give me all the stats they can search for on Google, but the guy is a glorified loser. He is the last QB I would want on my team to take me to the Super Bowl.
                              5. Getting wasted before the game. Why get so drunk that you don't know what is going on, let alone getting in a fight and getting thrown out.

                              underrated
                              1. Barry Sanders
                              2. Tackles
                              3. 1984 San Francisco 49ers
                              When Page 2 listed the greatest NFL teams of all time, this Joe Montana-led squad which went 15-1 didn't even make the top 10. Eddie Epstein's book "Dominance," on the greatest NFL teams ever, included two 49ers teams, but not this one.

                              Why? They lost one game (by three points), led the NFL in fewest points allowed, were second in points scored, featured 10 Pro Bowlers (including the entire defensive backfield of Ronnie Lott, Dwight Hicks, Carlton Williamson and Eric Wright) and had a balanced offense (fourth in passing yards, third in rushing yards). And they cruised in the playoffs: 21-10 over the Giants, 23-0 over the Bears and impressive 38-16 Super Bowl win over the 14-2 Dolphins, who possessed one of the greatest offenses of all time.

                              The Bears get all the kudos, but keep two things in mind: 1) Chicago played a weak New England team in its Super Bowl win while the Niners played a very good Dolphins team; 2) You don't think Joe Montana would find a way to score a few points against the vaunted "46" defense?
                              (taken from ESPN)
                              4. Nachos from the Ralph
                              5. Traffic after the game, sure you have to wait a few minutes, but the Sherrif's do a great job getting you home.

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                              • justasportsfan
                                Registered User
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 71601

                                #30
                                Drew Bledsoe IMo was the most overrated player when he was with the Pats. Now that everyone realizes how bad he can be, I can't say he's overrated now since expectations are not that high.
                                sacrifice1
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