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    Gruden disses Bills' decision to go with Losman?

    Maybe I'm reading into this, but it sure sounds like a cheap shot:

    Down this page here it says:

    With the pusuit of Garcia, the Bucs are signaling that they aren't ready to hand over the reigns to third-year quarterback Chris Simms.

    "We don't give guys starting jobs here just because Buffalo is giving their guy [J.P. Losman] their job," Gruden told the two Tampa-area papers. "Chris Simms has to earn that right. He has to earn the right to be a starter. He hasn't done that yet.

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    I just posted this in the Garcia thread..

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    The way it sounds, hes stockpiling QBs in TB. That would push Simms to #3. Hes just jealous Simms isnt as good as JP. If your not secure with your young guy being at least a #2, then thats their problem.
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    Either way it doesn't matter. There was no way Drew was going to accept fighting for the job with his "this is my team" attitude.

    Gruden has more things to worry about than what the Bills are doing. living here in Tampa Bay the only thing I see he did was take Dungys team and win the SB and then dismantle the whole mess including GM Rich Mckay. If he doesn't produce in the next 2 seasons he will be gone.

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    Grudens an a$$ anyway and an overrated HC

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    Quote Originally Posted by NE39
    Maybe I'm reading into this, but it sure sounds like a cheap shot:

    Down this page here it says:

    With the pusuit of Garcia, the Bucs are signaling that they aren't ready to hand over the reigns to third-year quarterback Chris Simms.

    "We don't give guys starting jobs here just because Buffalo is giving their guy [J.P. Losman] their job," Gruden told the two Tampa-area papers. "Chris Simms has to earn that right. He has to earn the right to be a starter. He hasn't done that yet.
    I just read this in the Tampa Tribue 1 second ago. I was just about to post it on the site. Thats why Buff will come down here and manhandle GRUDEN and this struggiling organization.....

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    I don't know. When the youngest coach ever in league history to have won a SuperBowl gives a coaching opinion, it's difficult to disregard...

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    He has a whole other situation there because Simms was a 2nd rounder, and he isn't making a tremendous amount of money.

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    I think Gruden had a lot to take on with the Tampa job. He was running dungy's team and it takes time to build a team of your own. His whole cap has been tied down to the deffense and just now they are getting out of that.
    I remember that one fateful day when Coach took me aside. I knew what was coming. "You don't have to tell me," I said. "I'm off the team, aren't I?"
    "Well," said Coach, "you never were really ON the team. You made that uniform you're wearing out of rags and towels, and your helmet is a toy space helmet.
    You show up at practice and then either steal the ball and make us chase you to get it back, or you try to tackle people at inappropriate times."
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    I'll take JP over Garcia any day of the week.






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    Maybe Gruden should have mentioned the Giants and Eli Manning rather than us. After all, he doesn't know whether JP will produce and be like Ben in Pittsburgh, or if he will go through substantial growing pains. It is uncertain and for him to say that makes him sound stupid. He does not apparently know that sticking with DB would have been a far worse decision - and if he doesn't understand the characteristics of why that decision was made, he shouldn't be commenting on it!!!

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    Gruden is a notorious ass and hates playing younger players, I would not be surprised to see Simms leave TB and be a huge success elsewhere.
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    gruden obviously just has no faith in his qbs..
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    It's obvious to me that when another HC from another conference is talking about our QB, he's jealous. He wishes that he had natrual talent at the QB position on his roster. He's to blame, so he can go suck ass with whoever he chooses.

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    I really don't give a crap what Gruden says. He knows his team. He sees Simms play every day. He knows simms has not earned the right to be the starter. He doesn't know what JP is doing in practice or in the film room so how would he know if he earned the spot or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Miyagi
    I don't know. When the youngest coach ever in league history to have won a SuperBowl gives a coaching opinion, it's difficult to disregard...
    He won with a team that wasn't even his and he won by playing against a team that he created and knows very well. I think he's an overrated ass, but that's just MO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earthquake Enyart
    He has a whole other situation there because Simms was a 2nd rounder, and he isn't making a tremendous amount of money.
    actully he was taken with the last pick of the third round, i remember cause i wanted the bills to grab him a few pics before, but they grabbed angelo crowell instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Miyagi
    I don't know. When the youngest coach ever in league history to have won a SuperBowl gives a coaching opinion, it's difficult to disregard...
    He was given a championship team on a silver platter. Look at what he's done since.

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