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  • Mr. Cynical
    Maybe?
    • Oct 2003
    • 9766

    Thoughts on Holcomb

    He spent the first 5 years of his career under Manning. So there was no way he was going to start there....ever. And I'm sure his game didn't improve by sitting the bench that whole time.

    He then went to Cleveland in 2001, backing up Tim Couch. Since Couch was the 1st overall pick in 1999, the Browns weren't about to give up on him just yet, so I'm sure Holcomb didn't get an honest shot at starting.

    I guess what I'm getting at is that he has only played 24 games, 13 of which he started. Thus he never really had the chance to develop his game, something which I'm sure happens to alot of QBs. Therefore he might just turn out to be a good player, especially if he's around guys like Wyche and TC.

    Heck, his QB rating is a full point higher than Drew's so he can't be any worse.
  • RedEyE
    Registered User
    • Jul 2002
    • 24661

    #2
    He's defintily a step up from Drew.

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    • Italian Stallion
      Knows More Than You
      • Feb 2004
      • 1136

      #3
      He seriously could have helped this team in the playoffs last year as the starter....

      I don't wanna totally lick his jock here, but I think this gives the Bills there best insurance policy at back up QB since Frank Reich...

      Awesome signing
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      • LifetimeBillsFan
        All-Pro Zoner
        • Aug 2004
        • 4946

        #4
        From the Cleveland games that I saw and what I heard from some Browns fans, Holcomb played very well when given the chance, but he wasn't really given a real chance to start in Cleveland because Couch was a # 1 pick and, then, because they signed J.Garcia--in part, because Holcomb had been hurt at the end of the previous season. The only knock on him that I have heard was that he has had injury problems the last couple of years, in part because the Browns' O-line was not very good.I think that this is an excellent signing and gives the Bills great insurance in case anything happens to JP Losman or he runs into the kind of difficulties that a young, first year starting QB can sometimes encounter (see Carson Palmer last season).
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        • Iehoshua
          Registered User
          • Jan 2003
          • 12906

          #5
          I like him. Not flashy but solid. Good backup...

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          • G. Host
            Banned
            • Jul 2002
            • 10298

            #6
            Since Losman has not shown he is durable yet it is a good pickup; we can not expect Losman to start all games next three years the way he plays.

            What is best it is a multi-year deal. In fact he and Losman will both have their contract up for renewal at same time.

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            • Ickybaluky
              Registered User
              • Jul 2003
              • 8884

              #7
              I posted this in another thread when someone asked me about him, so I'll just paste it in here:

              Holcomb - I think this is a steal, especially since he took less money to come here than Cleveland was offering to start. I think he got spooked because he felt Cleveland was just going to use him for a year and then cut him when they found something better. He may be a backup with Buffalo, but he has more security and can probably see the full contract. He is making decent coin, and probably has incentives that kick in if he has a chance to play extensively.

              Holcomb was a team leader, very popular among his teammates in Cleveland. He is tough, but that has led to his getting injured a lot. He can throw the ball pretty well and will stand in a take a hit. He isn't a guy that is going to run around a lot, but he is comfortable in the pocket. Cleveland had a crap OL, so he got beat up pretty bad, but the impressive thing was he didn't let it effect him. He always came back and played. He will throw the occasional interception, but he can throw for a lot of yardage as well. If something were to happen with J.P., you can win with this guy. I think he is better than Bledsoe at this point. Really, this is the perfect guy to have as a backup in Buffalo situation.

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              • Mr. Cynical
                Maybe?
                • Oct 2003
                • 9766

                #8
                Yep, and he is at that point in his career where he is old enough to know his way around but young enough to still improve.

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                • Bert102176
                  Registered User
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 3742

                  #9
                  he's a step up from Drew and Mathews, I like our 2 QB's we have
                  lets go BUFFALO lets go BUFFALO

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                  • Johnny Utah
                    Hall of Fame Zoner
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 6656

                    #10
                    Hopefully he can be our Frank Reich and step in and win a few if something were to happen to Los.

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                    • Tatonka
                      Registered User
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 21289

                      #11
                      i love the signing.
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                      • Historian
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                        • Dec 2002
                        • 61720

                        #12
                        I always liked the guy.

                        Playoff experience even!

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                        • Meathead
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                          • Jul 2002
                          • 21349

                          #13
                          lmao. More irrational hatred of Drew. Some of you are quite pathetic, in a funny/weird sort of way. lol.

                          There's no way he's better than Drew, but he's close and at half the price that's a major bargain.
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                          • YardRat
                            Well, lookie here...
                            • Dec 2004
                            • 86161

                            #14
                            I'm reserving judgement on him.

                            My father-in-law is a huge Browns fan, so I've heard stories about both sides of the coin on him.

                            Not better than Bledsoe IMO, but actually probably a better fit for the Losman-type offense we're going to run supposedly...if JP does happen to get hurt, not much should change in the game plan with Holcomb stepping in.
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                            • jamze132
                              Don’t hate…
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 29301

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Italian Stallion
                              He seriously could have helped this team in the playoffs last year as the starter....

                              I don't wanna totally lick his jock here, but I think this gives the Bills there best insurance policy at back up QB since Frank Reich...

                              Awesome signing
                              I totally agree.

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