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  • gr8slayer
    Registered User
    • Feb 2005
    • 20796

    Kevin Jones better than Willis?

    Here is the top guys under 25 according to nfl.com notice the name next to "RB", its Kevin Jones. Isnt Willis under 25? How is Jones better than Willis?

    WR Andre Johnson Houston July 11, 1981
    WR Michael Clayton Tampa Bay Oct. 13, 1982
    WR Larry Fitzgerald Arizona Aug. 31, 1983
    TE Antonio Gates San Diego June 18, 1980
    OT Jordan Gross Carolina July 20, 1980
    OT Kevin Shaffer Atlanta March 2, 1980
    OG Travelle Wharton Carolina May 19, 1981
    OG Montrae Holland New Orleans May 21, 1980
    C Nick Hardwick San Diego Sept. 2, 1981
    QB Michael Vick Atlanta June 26, 1980
    RB Kevin Jones Detroit Aug. 21, 1982
    FB B.J. Askew N.Y. Jets Aug. 19, 1980
    LS Don Muhlbach Detroit Aug. 17, 1981
    KR Terrence McGee Buffalo Oct. 14, 1980
    PR Eddie Drummond Detroit April 12, 1980


    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/8500805
  • Nublar7
    Registered User
    • Oct 2004
    • 850

    #2
    Originally posted by gr8slayer
    Here is the top guys under 25 according to nfl.com notice the name next to "RB", its Kevin Jones. Isnt Willis under 25? How is Jones better than Willis?

    WR Andre Johnson Houston July 11, 1981
    WR Michael Clayton Tampa Bay Oct. 13, 1982
    WR Larry Fitzgerald Arizona Aug. 31, 1983
    TE Antonio Gates San Diego June 18, 1980
    OT Jordan Gross Carolina July 20, 1980
    OT Kevin Shaffer Atlanta March 2, 1980
    OG Travelle Wharton Carolina May 19, 1981
    OG Montrae Holland New Orleans May 21, 1980
    C Nick Hardwick San Diego Sept. 2, 1981
    QB Michael Vick Atlanta June 26, 1980
    RB Kevin Jones Detroit Aug. 21, 1982
    FB B.J. Askew N.Y. Jets Aug. 19, 1980
    LS Don Muhlbach Detroit Aug. 17, 1981
    KR Terrence McGee Buffalo Oct. 14, 1980
    PR Eddie Drummond Detroit April 12, 1980


    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/8500805
    I would take Willis over Jones any day of the week. I think Willis is currently 23 I believe.

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    • gr8slayer
      Registered User
      • Feb 2005
      • 20796

      #3
      Thats what I thought too.

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      • Bills 4 life
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        • Oct 2004
        • 247

        #4
        didnt Evans have better #'s than Clayton last year?
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        • gr8slayer
          Registered User
          • Feb 2005
          • 20796

          #5
          Originally posted by Bills 4 life
          didnt Evans have better #'s than Clayton last year?
          No. Clayton had a much better year stats wise.

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          • the dude
            Registered User
            • Jul 2003
            • 110

            #6
            Originally posted by gr8slayer
            No. Clayton had a much better year stats wise.
            more receptions but fewer TDs than Lee ...

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            • gr8slayer
              Registered User
              • Feb 2005
              • 20796

              #7
              Originally posted by the dude
              more receptions but fewer TDs than Lee ...
              He also had more yards.

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              • ShadowHawk7
                Ground your Jets Vilma, no way you're shooting this guy down.
                • Mar 2003
                • 2274

                #8
                Yeah, Clayton was hands down ROY if it wasnt for Big Ben. But I would take Willis over Jones.
                "It's not whether you win or lose; it's how you play the game."
                -Vince Lombardi

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                • Mr.Reality
                  Registered User
                  • Nov 2002
                  • 6194

                  #9
                  I dunno if Jones is better than McGahee, but he's pretty good. He'd have had another 300 yards last year if Mooch wasn't an idiot.

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                  • camelcowboy
                    Registered User
                    • Mar 2005
                    • 7449

                    #10
                    Jones is more of a home run threat. Wills has shown more power, and a wicked stiff arm. If he gets his college speed back watch out.


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                    • Tatonka
                      Registered User
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 21289

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Mr.Reality
                      I dunno if Jones is better than McGahee, but he's pretty good. He'd have had another 300 yards last year if Mooch wasn't an idiot.
                      i agree.
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                      • LtFinFan66
                        Registered User
                        • Mar 2005
                        • 47199

                        #12
                        I'd take Willis over Jones all day

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                        • Ickybaluky
                          Registered User
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 8884

                          #13
                          If you look at the numbers, the argument that Jones is better holds weight:

                          Jones:

                          241 att for 1133 yards (4.7 ypa), 5 TD
                          28 rec for 180 yards (6.4 ypr), 1 TD

                          Jones got off to a slow start, getting banged up and not becoming a full-time player until the 2nd half. However, he tore up the league in the 2nd half, rushing 172 times for 906 yards (5.3 ypc), 4 TDs after becoming a starter in week 10.

                          McGahee:

                          284 att for 1128 yards (4.0 ypa), 13 TD
                          22 rec for 169 yards (7.7 ypr), 0 TD

                          McGahee saved the Bills season once he started to get the ball in week 6, proving to be the horse which they built their run game around.


                          I know you guys like McGahee, but Jones proved to be a pretty explosive player, and he wasn't shut down by anyone after becoming a starter. McGahee was shut down in several games, and when you look at the numbers Jones put up was a starter it is easy to make an argument he is a better player. I realize you guys all really love McGahee, but be a little un-biased.

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                          • LifetimeBillsFan
                            All-Pro Zoner
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 4946

                            #14
                            Originally posted by camelcowboy
                            Jones is more of a home run threat. Wills has shown more power, and a wicked stiff arm. If he gets his college speed back watch out.
                            That was the difference between them last season. But, with Willis finally able to do some speed work in the off-season, I would expect him to be just as much of a home run threat as K.Jones this season.

                            Based on the stats, I would have to give the edge to K.Jones, just barely, last season, but, personally, I like Willis' toughness, hard running and nose for the goal-line a bit more and think he will overtake K.Jones as he continues to regain his speed.

                            Let's put it this way: if I were picking for my fantasy football team for this up-coming season and I had a choice between them, I would take W.McGahee over J.Jones and, then, K.Jones in that order--which is not to say that K.Jones isn't going to put up some good numbers--he will--but I think the other two are going to be more consistently productive within their offenses.
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                            • EDS
                              Registered User
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 5216

                              #15
                              Originally posted by camelcowboy
                              Jones is more of a home run threat. Wills has shown more power, and a wicked stiff arm. If he gets his college speed back watch out.
                              The interesting thing there is that Jones timed much slower in the 40 then anticipated.

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