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    Cap Update 8/2

    I have submitted another cap page update to Dozer. I do not know when he will be able to make the changes, so here's a capsule:

    As of 8/2, I have the Bills $3,2234,124 under an adjusted salary cap of $85,721,000 with $5,482,941 "dead cap"

    Missing info: Bonuses for RB Burns, TE Neufeld, and many of the UDFAs. Maybe a Deion charge or two, and since he's not signed, Kevin Everett.

    I estimated signing bonuses for CB King and OL Geisinger. They will not likely be off by much.

    Points to make:

    Nate Clements can be re-signed without creating new cap space. Why? His salary is $2.5 million. His extension could lower the salary to as low as $540,000 (vet min for Nate). That's $1.96 million of cap space to utilize on signing bonus proration, roster bonus, etc

    Terrence McGee can be re-signed but his extension will add to his 2005 cap number.

    It's possible that both could be extended without creating additional salary cap space. Ho0w? Well, Bills will get some cap space back once players are cut to the final 53 man roster. I do not consider this "creating" because it's required of all teams before the season starts

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    Re: Cap Update 8/2

    I think Nate gets done in the next few weeks. TD has had nothing but positive things to say about him, and Nate said he wants to play his whole career here (Bills Daily, Dills Digest). I think he gets a 6 year 48million contract with a 10-12 mil sign bonus, and for a guy as talented as him, and for someone who means so much to the defense, he's well worth it.
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    Re: Cap Update 8/2

    It will take between $15-20 million of guaranteed money to get him to forego FA IMO

    That's not all signing bonus. It could be $10 million up front, then big roster bonus in 2006 & 2007. Depends on how it's structured, but all together, I cannot imagine he would settle for less than someone like Ken Lucas

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    Re: Cap Update 8/2

    Quote Originally Posted by clumping platelets
    Nate Clements can be re-signed without creating new cap space. Why? His salary is $2.5 million. His extension could lower the salary to as low as $540,000 (vet min for Nate). That's $1.96 million of cap space to utilize on signing bonus proration, roster bonus, etc

    Terrence McGee can be re-signed but his extension will add to his 2005 cap number.

    It's possible that both could be extended without creating additional salary cap space. Ho0w? Well, Bills will get some cap space back once players are cut to the final 53 man roster. I do not consider this "creating" because it's required of all teams before the season starts
    clumping,

    First of all, thanks for your cap information and update. It really makes things way easier.

    On the other hand, I would like to see Bills re-signing or extending Clements for more years. If Vincent is playing at this level at 36 years old, IMO it's wise start thinking to offer him a 10 year extension.
    Reasons:

    1. He's not injury prone
    2. The best all-time Bills CB
    3. All time starter
    4. Low profile
    5. Has the frame and size to finish his career as a Safety

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    Talking Re: Cap Update 8/2

    of course we're interested.



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    Re: Cap Update 8/2

    10 yr contract makes little sense because signing bonuses can, at this time, only be amortized for 5 yrs. It will likely change when the CBA is extended but for now it's only 5 yrs. It could be offered but his agent would likely ignore such an offer because it would take Nate out of future FA.

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    Re: Cap Update 8/2

    Quote Originally Posted by vicmantak
    2. The best all-time Bills CB
    4. Low profile
    2. I'd still put Butch Byrd ahead of him but he's getting there
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    Re: Cap Update 8/2

    low profile as in he doesnt go pointing his gun at people in the offseason or do cocain with david boston.

    i agree.. he has attitude on the field and he dont ever have to worry about hearing his name in the news due to off the field issues.
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    Re: Cap Update 8/2

    Quote Originally Posted by clumping platelets
    As of 8/2, I have the Bills $3,2234,124 under an adjusted salary cap of $85,721,000 with $5,482,941 "dead cap"



    Can the Bills open up more money by converting Williams' $3mil bonus?




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    Re: Cap Update 8/2

    They already converted it over a month ago

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    Re: Cap Update 8/2

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    Can the Bills open up more money by converting Williams' $3mil bonus?
    that's old news.






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    Re: Cap Update 8/2

    Quote Originally Posted by clumping platelets
    They already converted it over a month ago
    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey82
    that's old news.
    wtf was I?

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    Re: Cap Update 8/2

    It was in the Buffalo News twice

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    Re: Cap Update 8/2

    Quote Originally Posted by clumping platelets
    It was in the Buffalo News twice
    it was a very busy July...

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    Re: Cap Update 8/2

    Excuses, excuses

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    Re: Cap Update 8/2

    clumping,

    One more question. If Bills are interested on a franchise tagged player (Corey Simon), do you see some notable cap and contract differences if Bills try to get Orlando Pace?

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    Re: Cap Update 8/2

    I thought Pace signed a long term deal with the Rams this year?



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    Re: Cap Update 8/2

    I found it, Pace is no longer on the market.

    per KFFL
    Rams | Pace Contract Breakdown
    Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:09:13 -0800

    Updating previous reports, the seven-year deal OT Orlando Pace signed with the St. Louis Rams has base salaries of $2.975 million (2005), $3.975 million (2006), $4.075 million (2007), $5.175 million (2008), $5.97 million (2009), $7.175 million (2010) and $8.375 million (2011).


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    Re: Cap Update 8/2

    And those are just his salaries....his signing bonus was around $15 million

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    Re: Cap Update 8/2

    Clumping,

    Is the 5.5 million dead cap space all from Bledsoe? And is it possible that we won't have any dead cap space after this season?

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