He should have tried to get along with Bill Polian instead of ****canning him.
He should have tried to get along with Bill Polian instead of ****canning him.
When did it come out that it was Ralph that Polian didn't get along with..considering for years it's been said that it was Ralph's chief financial guy that Polian disagreed with?
Who stayed and who got sent packing?? It was common knowledge that there was friction between Wilson and Polian. In any case, The final decision came down to Ralph and he made the wrong choice. Polian is 7-0 right now.Originally Posted by The_Philster
THe rumor that I have been told for years was that Polian called Mr Wilsons daughter a C#$t. Polian hated his daughter and that is what I was told the reason for his departure.
I wish Butler never left. RIP
oh yeah, because that piece of **** was soo good at keeping us under the cap. He bailed right when the Bills were ready to go to cap hell. I blame him for that.Originally Posted by TacklingDummy
You forgot to say RIP.Originally Posted by Mikey82
Most women are, what was the big deal?Originally Posted by McGahee420
Originally Posted by Mikey82
he got us in cap hell true, but I betif given the chance to rebuild like TD did he would have gotten us back to being a winner by now (if he had stayed and not died)
Did you see what he was already starting to do in San Diego before he passed away? He was already bringing them to cap hell. AJ Smith is the one who brought them out of it and made the Chargers what it is now.Originally Posted by Fairway
At this point, cap hell is better than Donahoe.
Cap Hell led to Donahoe.Originally Posted by jamze132
If only we kept AJ Smith and promoted him. That might have been better.
A.J. is looking pretty good right now. As far as Butler, he may not have been the best with playing the numbers game under the cap but he knew how to draft talent and get some gems in the rough. Donahoe's drafting resume is looking pretty repulsive right now.Originally Posted by Mikey82
Do I need to remind you of the 2000 draft?Originally Posted by mchurchfie
Round Pick Overall Pos. Player College
1 26 26 DE Erik Flowers Arizona State
2 27 58 S Travares Tillman Georgia Tech
3 27 89 OLB Corey Moore Virginia Tech
4 27 121 WR Avion Black Tennessee St.
5 27 156 RB Sammy Morris Texas Tech
6 28 194 DT Leif Larsen UTEP
7 27 233 WR Drew Haddad Buffalo
7 45 251 LB DaShon Polk Arizona
1999 was okay, but the later rounds sucked...
Round Pick Overall Pos. Player College
1 23 23 DB Antoine Winfield Ohio State
2 22 53 WR Peerless Price Tennessee
3 25 86 RB Shawn Bryson Tennessee
4 24 119 LB Keith Newman North Carolina
4 27 122 TE Bobby Collins North Alabama
5 23 156 LB Jay Foreman Nebraska
6 25 194 S Armon Hatcher Oregon State
7 24 230 TE Sheldon Jackson Nebraska
7 42 248 DL Bryce Fisher Air Force
And I actually disagree about TD's drafts. They actually havent been that bad....
2001
Round Pick Overall Pos. Player College
1 21 21 DB Nate Clements Ohio State
2 15 46 DE Aaron Schobel TCU
2 207 58 RB Travis Henry Tennessee
3 14 76 DT Ron Edwards Texas A&M
3 33* 95 OT Jonas Jennings Georgia
4 15 110 LB Brandon Spoon North Carolina
5 13 144 OT Marques Sullivan Illinois
6 15 178 S Tony Driver Notre Dame
6 32* 195 TE Dan O'Leary Notre Dame
6 33* 196 CB Jimmy Williams Vanderbilt
7 14 214 WR Reggie Germany Ohio State
7 38* 238 DT Tyrone Robertson Hinds CC
2002
Round Pick Overall Pos. Player College
1 4 4 OT Mike Williams Texas
2 4 36 WR Josh Reed LSU
2 29 61 DE Ryan Denney BYU
3 32 97* SS Coy Wire Stanford
5 4 139 DT Justin Bannan Colorado
6 4 176 CB Kevin Thomas UNLV
7 4 215 OG Mike Pucillo Auburn
7 40 249* WR Rodney Wright Fresno St.
7 42 251* FB Jarett Ferguson Virginia Tech
7 50 260# LB Dominique Stevenson Tennessee
2003 is looking really good so far
Round Pick Overall Pos. Player College
1 23 23 RB Willis McGahee Miami
2 16 48 DE Chris Kelsay Nebraska
3 30 94 LB Angelo Crowell Virginia
4 14 111 DB Terrence McGee Northwestern State
4 30 127* WR Sam Aiken North Carolina
5 16 151 OG Ben Sobieski Iowa
6 14 187 DT Lauvele Sape Utah
7 14 228 MLB Mario Haggan Mississippi State
2004
Round Pick Overall Pos. Player College
1 13 13 WR Lee Evans Wisconsin
1 22 22* QB J.P. Losman Tulane
3 11 74 DT Tim Anderson Ohio St.
4 13 109 TE Tim Euhus Oregon State
7 6 207* OT Dylan McFarland Montana
7 13 214 WR Jonathan "Fast Freddie" Smith Georgia Tech
Last edited by Michael82; 10-27-2005 at 09:17 PM.
I only have one thing to say about that "Mike Williams."Originally Posted by Mikey82
I'm pretty sure Jake Reed retired...and wasn't drafted by usOriginally Posted by Mikey82
That 2002 draft has set this organization back a little. I starter( A O-lineman picked 4th although above average when healthy, is not a probowler and plays RT) a quasi starter (Josh Reed, (whose play was subpar for 2 years) and the rest backups and never-weres.
Oops, forgot to fix that. I copied it off BillsDaily like that.Originally Posted by The_Philster
Agreed. 2002 slowed the Bills down a bit, but TD made up for that in 2003 and 2004.Originally Posted by WILLIS21