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    Unhappy It's ALL Ralph's Fault!!

    He should have tried to get along with Bill Polian instead of ****canning him.

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    Re: It's ALL Ralph's Fault!!

    When did it come out that it was Ralph that Polian didn't get along with..considering for years it's been said that it was Ralph's chief financial guy that Polian disagreed with?

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    Re: It's ALL Ralph's Fault!!

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Philster
    When did it come out that it was Ralph that Polian didn't get along with..considering for years it's been said that it was Ralph's chief financial guy that Polian disagreed with?
    Who stayed and who got sent packing?? It was common knowledge that there was friction between Wilson and Polian. In any case, The final decision came down to Ralph and he made the wrong choice. Polian is 7-0 right now.

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    Re: It's ALL Ralph's Fault!!

    THe rumor that I have been told for years was that Polian called Mr Wilsons daughter a C#$t. Polian hated his daughter and that is what I was told the reason for his departure.



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    Re: It's ALL Ralph's Fault!!

    I wish Butler never left. RIP

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    Re: It's ALL Ralph's Fault!!

    Quote Originally Posted by TacklingDummy
    I wish Butler never left. RIP
    oh yeah, because that piece of **** was soo good at keeping us under the cap. He bailed right when the Bills were ready to go to cap hell. I blame him for that.

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    Re: It's ALL Ralph's Fault!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey82
    oh yeah, because that piece of **** was soo good at keeping us under the cap. He bailed right when the Bills were ready to go to cap hell. I blame him for that.
    You forgot to say RIP.

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    Re: It's ALL Ralph's Fault!!

    Quote Originally Posted by McGahee420
    THe rumor that I have been told for years was that Polian called Mr Wilsons daughter a C#$t. Polian hated his daughter and that is what I was told the reason for his departure.
    Most women are, what was the big deal?

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    Re: It's ALL Ralph's Fault!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey82
    oh yeah, because that piece of **** was soo good at keeping us under the cap. He bailed right when the Bills were ready to go to cap hell. I blame him for that.


    he got us in cap hell true, but I betif given the chance to rebuild like TD did he would have gotten us back to being a winner by now (if he had stayed and not died)

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    Re: It's ALL Ralph's Fault!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Fairway
    he got us in cap hell true, but I betif given the chance to rebuild like TD did he would have gotten us back to being a winner by now (if he had stayed and not died)
    Did you see what he was already starting to do in San Diego before he passed away? He was already bringing them to cap hell. AJ Smith is the one who brought them out of it and made the Chargers what it is now.

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    Re: It's ALL Ralph's Fault!!

    At this point, cap hell is better than Donahoe.

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    Re: It's ALL Ralph's Fault!!

    Quote Originally Posted by jamze132
    At this point, cap hell is better than Donahoe.
    Cap Hell led to Donahoe.

    If only we kept AJ Smith and promoted him. That might have been better.

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    Re: It's ALL Ralph's Fault!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey82
    Cap Hell led to Donahoe.
    If only we kept AJ Smith and promoted him. That might have been better.
    A.J. is looking pretty good right now. As far as Butler, he may not have been the best with playing the numbers game under the cap but he knew how to draft talent and get some gems in the rough. Donahoe's drafting resume is looking pretty repulsive right now.

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    Re: It's ALL Ralph's Fault!!

    Quote Originally Posted by mchurchfie
    A.J. is looking pretty good right now. As far as Butler, he may not have been the best with playing the numbers game under the cap but he knew how to draft talent and get some gems in the rough. Donahoe's drafting resume is looking pretty repulsive right now.
    Do I need to remind you of the 2000 draft?

    Round Pick Overall Pos. Player College
    1 26 26 DE Erik Flowers Arizona State
    2 27 58 S Travares Tillman Georgia Tech
    3 27 89 OLB Corey Moore Virginia Tech
    4 27 121 WR Avion Black Tennessee St.
    5 27 156 RB Sammy Morris Texas Tech
    6 28 194 DT Leif Larsen UTEP
    7 27 233 WR Drew Haddad Buffalo
    7 45 251 LB DaShon Polk Arizona

    1999 was okay, but the later rounds sucked...

    Round Pick Overall Pos. Player College
    1 23 23 DB Antoine Winfield Ohio State
    2 22 53 WR Peerless Price Tennessee
    3 25 86 RB Shawn Bryson Tennessee
    4 24 119 LB Keith Newman North Carolina
    4 27 122 TE Bobby Collins North Alabama
    5 23 156 LB Jay Foreman Nebraska
    6 25 194 S Armon Hatcher Oregon State
    7 24 230 TE Sheldon Jackson Nebraska
    7 42 248 DL Bryce Fisher Air Force

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    Re: It's ALL Ralph's Fault!!

    And I actually disagree about TD's drafts. They actually havent been that bad....

    2001
    Round Pick Overall Pos. Player College
    1 21 21 DB Nate Clements Ohio State
    2 15 46 DE Aaron Schobel TCU
    2 207 58 RB Travis Henry Tennessee
    3 14 76 DT Ron Edwards Texas A&M
    3 33* 95 OT Jonas Jennings Georgia
    4 15 110 LB Brandon Spoon North Carolina
    5 13 144 OT Marques Sullivan Illinois
    6 15 178 S Tony Driver Notre Dame
    6 32* 195 TE Dan O'Leary Notre Dame
    6 33* 196 CB Jimmy Williams Vanderbilt
    7 14 214 WR Reggie Germany Ohio State
    7 38* 238 DT Tyrone Robertson Hinds CC

    2002
    Round Pick Overall Pos. Player College
    1 4 4 OT Mike Williams Texas
    2 4 36 WR Josh Reed LSU
    2 29 61 DE Ryan Denney BYU
    3 32 97* SS Coy Wire Stanford
    5 4 139 DT Justin Bannan Colorado
    6 4 176 CB Kevin Thomas UNLV
    7 4 215 OG Mike Pucillo Auburn
    7 40 249* WR Rodney Wright Fresno St.
    7 42 251* FB Jarett Ferguson Virginia Tech
    7 50 260# LB Dominique Stevenson Tennessee

    2003 is looking really good so far
    Round Pick Overall Pos. Player College
    1 23 23 RB Willis McGahee Miami
    2 16 48 DE Chris Kelsay Nebraska
    3 30 94 LB Angelo Crowell Virginia
    4 14 111 DB Terrence McGee Northwestern State
    4 30 127* WR Sam Aiken North Carolina
    5 16 151 OG Ben Sobieski Iowa
    6 14 187 DT Lauvele Sape Utah
    7 14 228 MLB Mario Haggan Mississippi State

    2004
    Round Pick Overall Pos. Player College
    1 13 13 WR Lee Evans Wisconsin
    1 22 22* QB J.P. Losman Tulane
    3 11 74 DT Tim Anderson Ohio St.
    4 13 109 TE Tim Euhus Oregon State
    7 6 207* OT Dylan McFarland Montana
    7 13 214 WR Jonathan "Fast Freddie" Smith Georgia Tech
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    Re: It's ALL Ralph's Fault!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey82
    And I actually disagree about TD's drafts. They actually havent been that bad....
    2001
    Round Pick Overall Pos. Player College
    1 21 21 DB Nate Clements Ohio State
    2 15 46 DE Aaron Schobel TCU
    2 207 58 RB Travis Henry Tennessee
    3 14 76 DT Ron Edwards Texas A&M
    3 33* 95 OT Jonas Jennings Georgia
    4 15 110 LB Brandon Spoon North Carolina
    5 13 144 OT Marques Sullivan Illinois
    6 15 178 S Tony Driver Notre Dame
    6 32* 195 TE Dan O'Leary Notre Dame
    6 33* 196 CB Jimmy Williams Vanderbilt
    7 14 214 WR Reggie Germany Ohio State
    7 38* 238 DT Tyrone Robertson Hinds CC
    2002
    Round Pick Overall Pos. Player College
    1 4 4 OT Mike Williams Texas
    2 4 36 WR Jake Reed LSU
    2 29 61 DE Ryan Denney BYU
    3 32 97* SS Coy Wire Stanford
    5 4 139 DT Justin Bannan Colorado
    6 4 176 CB Kevin Thomas UNLV
    7 4 215 OG Mike Pucillo Auburn
    7 40 249* WR Rodney Wright Fresno St.
    7 42 251* FB Jarett Ferguson Virginia Tech
    7 50 260# LB Dominique Stevenson Tennessee
    2003 is looking really good so far
    Round Pick Overall Pos. Player College
    1 23 23 RB Willis McGahee Miami
    2 16 48 DE Chris Kelsay Nebraska
    3 30 94 LB Angelo Crowell Virginia
    4 14 111 DB Terrence McGee Northwestern State
    4 30 127* WR Sam Aiken North Carolina
    5 16 151 OG Ben Sobieski Iowa
    6 14 187 DT Lauvele Sape Utah
    7 14 228 MLB Mario Haggan Mississippi State
    2004
    Round Pick Overall Pos. Player College
    1 13 13 WR Lee Evans Wisconsin
    1 22 22* QB J.P. Losman Tulane
    3 11 74 DT Tim Anderson Ohio St.
    4 13 109 TE Tim Euhus Oregon State
    7 6 207* OT Dylan McFarland Montana
    7 13 214 WR Jonathan "Fast Freddie" Smith Georgia Tech
    I only have one thing to say about that "Mike Williams."

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    Re: It's ALL Ralph's Fault!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey82
    2 4 36 WR Jake Reed LSU
    I'm pretty sure Jake Reed retired...and wasn't drafted by us

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    Re: It's ALL Ralph's Fault!!

    That 2002 draft has set this organization back a little. I starter( A O-lineman picked 4th although above average when healthy, is not a probowler and plays RT) a quasi starter (Josh Reed, (whose play was subpar for 2 years) and the rest backups and never-weres.

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    Re: It's ALL Ralph's Fault!!

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Philster
    I'm pretty sure Jake Reed retired...and wasn't drafted by us
    Oops, forgot to fix that. I copied it off BillsDaily like that.

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    Re: It's ALL Ralph's Fault!!

    Quote Originally Posted by WILLIS21
    That 2002 draft has set this organization back a little. I starter( A O-lineman picked 4th although above average when healthy, is not a probowler and plays RT) a quasi starter (Josh Reed, (whose play was subpar for 2 years) and the rest backups and never-weres.
    Agreed. 2002 slowed the Bills down a bit, but TD made up for that in 2003 and 2004.

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