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Re: Steve Smith smacks Clements on radio and Bentley.
Originally posted by ICE74129
Then get ready for dissapointment. The cover 2 dictates your CB's are 8 yards off and 2 yards in from the LOS. And we know levy wants the cover two.
What are you talking about? A cover two is not that. I'm a coach and that is one of the basic secondary coverages out there. It is where you are anywhere from in the face to 3-4 yards off the ball...not 8. In a cover two you want to be in an outside shade because if they run a go route you dont want to make the job harder on your safety by letting them get to the outside. You play an outside shade on the WR so you funnel everything in to the safeties. I dont know what coverage your thinking of but your definetely not thinking of a cover 2. The only time the corner goes 8 yards deep is after they have funneled their main back inside and they sit in the flat in the zone coverage.
Re: Steve Smith smacks Clements on radio and Bentley.
Originally posted by Tatonka
chad johnson said nate was the 2nd best in the league..
i hear chad johnson is a pretty good wr too.
cleveland has no need for bentley at all.
Ditto: I heard the same. The variation is interesting. Clemeents does take a lot of chances, and got burned fairly often this year. It would be interesting to see how he would fare if the Bills played more bump and run. Not going to happen if Buffalo runs more of a cover two though.
I've made up my mind. Don't confuse me with the facts.
I'm the most reasonable poster here. If you don't agree, I'll be forced to have a hissy fit.
Re: Steve Smith smacks Clements on radio and Bentley.
Yes and no. Base Cover 2 is 8/2. But most teams are playing man up cover 2 which means the CB is no more than 3 yards off of the ball. You would be correct in that situation in they don't want to give up the outside shoulder and expose the middle of the field I.e. for a TE or slot WR up the seam.
What the bears ran this year is the Dungy/ Kiffin Cover 2. the Field is devided up into 7 sections.
I will say we don't have the speed at safety outside of Vincent to run the cover 2. Milloy is way too slow to cover his ground dont' you think?
Re: Steve Smith smacks Clements on radio and Bentley.
Originally posted by TigerJ
Ditto: I heard the same. The variation is interesting. Clemeents does take a lot of chances, and got burned fairly often this year. It would be interesting to see how he would fare if the Bills played more bump and run. Not going to happen if Buffalo runs more of a cover two though.
It depends on how we run C2. As Gonzo said, CB's in a man 2 (what Tampa/Chicago run) will be no more than 4 yards off of the LOS with a goal of funneling WR's inside as to not spit the field for the safetys and causing the Seams to be open.
Re: Steve Smith smacks Clements on radio and Bentley.
Originally posted by ICE74129
Clements has never been a Great CB. Gets beat one on one, Gives up too many stupid plays. Too worried about himself.
Clements isn't worth the money and NO CB is. NO CB in this league is worth QB money and that is what they are getting. Pay nate, you can't better the DL.
How do you explain 2004 then?
"It's not whether you win or lose; it's how you play the game."
Re: Steve Smith smacks Clements on radio and Bentley.
Now I respect Steve Smith very much however he has only played one game against Clements so you really can't judge him by playing against him one game. Clements just had a bad year this year.
As for the Smoot comment about being the most over rated. Smoot ran his mouth at Steve Smith all game when they played and Smith buried him with 200+ yards and 2 TDs. One thing I learned from watching Smith. When someone tries to talk smack to him he takes it personally and uses it as motivation and usually ends up embarrassing the guy. Smoot and Sam Madison really talked trash to Smith during games this year and Smith raked up 400 yards between the two games.
Carolina 13, Buffalo 9
By JOHN WAWROW, AP Sports Writer
November 27, 2005
ORCHARD PARK, N.Y. (AP) -- Unable to find Steve Smith, Jake Delhomme settled for another option with the game on the line: third-string tight end Michael Gaines.
Gaines' 3-yard touchdown catch lifted the Carolina Panthers to a 13-9 win over the Buffalo Bills on Sunday. Gaines scored with 2:16 remaining in a game dominated by defense and field goals.
The Bills' last chance ended when Chris Gamble intercepted J.P. Losman's throw to Roscoe Parrish in the left flat in the final minute. Parrish appeared to slip on the play, and Losman's pass was underthrown.
"Defeat is simply a signal to press onward" - Helen Keller
"What we call failure is not the falling down, but the staying down"
Carolina 13, Buffalo 9
By JOHN WAWROW, AP Sports Writer
November 27, 2005
ORCHARD PARK, N.Y. (AP) -- Unable to find Steve Smith, Jake Delhomme settled for another option with the game on the line: third-string tight end Michael Gaines.
Gaines' 3-yard touchdown catch lifted the Carolina Panthers to a 13-9 win over the Buffalo Bills on Sunday. Gaines scored with 2:16 remaining in a game dominated by defense and field goals.
The Bills' last chance ended when Chris Gamble intercepted J.P. Losman's throw to Roscoe Parrish in the left flat in the final minute. Parrish appeared to slip on the play, and Losman's pass was underthrown.
Yeah, it took Clements and two other guys to cover him. What is your point?
Re: Steve Smith smacks Clements on radio and Bentley.
Originally posted by ShadowHawk7
How do you explain 2004 then?
Explain what? He had 'A' good year. Before and since he is a good CB. Not great. And there is no way he is worth top 5 money even if it wasn't QB type money. Sorry, no.
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