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Re: Bills coaches: Are they dated?

Oh but to some Gailey is a very good coach who is doing a good job. He just inherited a horrible team and it's going to take some time to turn it around..

That is an incredible stat. Not only are we the worse team over the past 13 years as far as being the only one not to make the playoffs and having only one winning season we're also ranked 30th in wins since Gailey took over. All of this and some still think he is a good coach. Good thing we got off to a lucky start last season or we would be the worse over the past 36 games.

Some of these guys laugh at other coaches and teams like the Jaguars, Raiders, etc, but even they have been better then us even during the past several years. As I said earlier, Gailey is a proven loser as a HC at the NFL level. If he hasn't gotten by age 60 he never will.

This isn't a young HC who just recently stepped up from being an assistant coach. This is somebody with decades of experience who has proven that he can't win. I didn't like his hiring then but was willing to give him a chance but after 2+ years I dislike it even more.

[BertSquirtgum]

Re: Bills coaches: Are they dated?

Chan Gailey should have been fired last year.

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Re: Bills coaches: Are they dated?

Oh but to some Gailey is a very good coach who is doing a good job. He just inherited a horrible team and it's going to take some time to turn it around..

That is an incredible stat. Not only are we the worse team over the past 13 years as far as being the only one not to make the playoffs and having only one winning season we're also ranked 30th in wins since Gailey took over. All of this and some still think he is a good coach. Good thing we got off to a lucky start last season or we would be the worse over the past 36 games.

Some of these guys laugh at other coaches and teams like the Jaguars, Raiders, etc, but even they have been better then us even during the past several years. As I said earlier, Gailey is a proven loser as a HC at the NFL level. If he hasn't gotten by age 60 he never will.

This isn't a young HC who just recently stepped up from being an assistant coach. This is somebody with decades of experience who has proven that he can't win. I didn't like his hiring then but was willing to give him a chance but after 2+ years I dislike it even more.

Well, I can't say just how good Chan is as a HC, but I can say NO HC could have won with the team Chan was hired to Coach. The talent on this team is much improved, we just need a QB in a bad way.

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Re: Bills coaches: Are they dated?

I don't think gailey is dated as an offensive mind. By he may be dated in terms of his coaching style. Wannstedts D def seems dated to me. All the best defenses in the league incorporate blitzes

[Generalissimus Gibby]

Re: Bills coaches: Are they dated?

Not outdated, just out of their proper role or awful. Chan Gailey is a brilliant OC, and has made a career of turning ****ty qbs into halfway decent starters. If we had drafted Andy Dalton or any other competent qb people would be comparing him to Tom Brady. However, as a HC he is out of his element. Dave Wandstache on the other hand is just awful and should be terminated.

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Dave Wandstache on the other hand is just awful and should be terminated.

with extreme prejudice

[mjt328]

Re: Bills coaches: Are they dated?

Not outdated, just out of their proper role or awful. Chan Gailey is a brilliant OC, and has made a career of turning ****ty qbs into halfway decent starters. If we had drafted Andy Dalton or any other competent qb people would be comparing him to Tom Brady. However, as a HC he is out of his element. Dave Wandstache on the other hand is just awful and should be terminated.

Agreed completely.

That's my biggest fear about getting rid of him. I feel like Gailey has done a lot of really good things with this team offensively, and I would hate to lose him on that side of the ball.
If we brought in another head coach, there is a good chance everything would get an overall and our offense would go back to the Losman/Edwards days.

And for the most part, I think he (and Nix) have the right philosophy about how to build a team... minus the whole quarterback thing.

Unfortunately, Gailey is worthless in helping out the defense. And his two d-coordinator choices have been horrible.
Lots of other teams are successful with the HC running one side of the ball, and the coordinator handling the other side. You just have to get the right combination.
- Green Bay has McCarthy on offense and Capers on defense
- New Orleans had Payton on offense and Williams on defense
- Houston has Kubiak on offense and Phillips on defense

[trapezeus]

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pete carroll is 60 years old? and older than Chan? Am I reading this right from the original post?

chan looks like crap if he's younger than pete carroll.

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also, in terms of the bills having zero options at HC since everyone and their mother turned them down, i'm pretty sure chan is the best option we've got.

imagine the horror of a new un-heard of high school coach getting the gig, or an expensive retread like billick who clearly won as a result of a great defense with great defensive players while being an offensive genius who couldn't get his team into the endzone.

there is no future for the bills. anything they do or have done doesn't work out. it's maddening.

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Gailey is a good offensive coach. He is a miserable head coach.

The Stache shouldn't even be in the league...

[BillsFever21]

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Agreed completely.

That's my biggest fear about getting rid of him. I feel like Gailey has done a lot of really good things with this team offensively, and I would hate to lose him on that side of the ball.
If we brought in another head coach, there is a good chance everything would get an overall and our offense would go back to the Losman/Edwards days.

And for the most part, I think he (and Nix) have the right philosophy about how to build a team... minus the whole quarterback thing.

Unfortunately, Gailey is worthless in helping out the defense. And his two d-coordinator choices have been horrible.
Lots of other teams are successful with the HC running one side of the ball, and the coordinator handling the other side. You just have to get the right combination.
- Green Bay has McCarthy on offense and Capers on defense
- New Orleans had Payton on offense and Williams on defense
- Houston has Kubiak on offense and Phillips on defense

It would be nice just to keep him on as an OC if he fails again this year but that's not a possibility. He wouldn't stay and take a demotion. There are other good offensive minds out there you just need to find them. It's not like Gailey is the best or only offensive mind out there that he isn't replaceable.

It doesn't matter if he's a good OC or not if he sucks as a HC. Not just our coaches but many others around the league were good OC's or DC's but they just weren't any good as a HC. You can't keep them on just because of that. Ralph needs to have a good front office and/or be willing to fork out the money to bring not only a good HC here but decent coordinators too. That isn't the case with him though.

The comparisons you made with the other coaches isn't 100 percent accurate. Sure they call their own plays and run their offense but they also decide on how the team is going to play. Just like Tom Coughlin. He has Gilbride as an OC but his playcalling is totally different because Coughlin makes him stick with the plan that he wants to follow with the team or during a game. Gilbride will call the plays depending on what strategy Coughlin wants to play. When Gilbride was an OC in Buffalo that wasn't the case. He just did his own thing for the most part.

It's not like them HC's are just in charge of the offense and the DC is just in charge of the defense. They are still in charge of the team and strategy and style of play that the coach wants to do on the other side of the ball.

They tried that experiment in Dallas where Wade was just in charge of the defense and Garrett was just in charge of the offense and they both did their own thing. There wasn't any leadership and even though both of them were good coordinators you still need somebody to call the shots and prepare the team and that wasn't the case in that situation.

Gailey just can't cut it as a HC. If he fails this season then he needs to go. He's had many years in the NFL to prove himself. Just because somebody is a good coordinator doesn't mean they will be a HC.

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Re: Bills coaches: Are they dated?

More doom and gloom. 2-2 and we're dated and terribad. DOOM I SAY! Those wins were nothing!

[BillsFever21]

Re: Bills coaches: Are they dated?

More doom and gloom. 2-2 and we're dated and terribad. DOOM I SAY! Those wins were nothing!

I think it has more to do with 12-24 since he's been here and not showing any great improvement this year either. Not to mention the 12-24 we have we also had an 8 game losing streak the first year and lost 7 out of our last 8 the second season. Both of our wins this year was against teams with a combined 1 WIN all season. We're also 2-12 in the division over that span. We've finished in last place both seasons too.

Them aren't the signs of a good coaching staff. A good coaching staff doesn't lose that many games in a row in consecutive seasons and 2-10 in the division. Not to mention they completely choked after a 5-2 start. We're also 4-14 on the road during that span. Even the Dolphins have won at least 5 games in the division in the past couple years.

This year we beat a couple bad teams and was blown out in both of our divisional. Keep on thinking that it's just this season though. But hey we're 2-2 so far this season though so everything is just fine and dandy. Many people kept saying the same things when Dick Jauron was here too.

Chan Gailey has also spent decades in the NFL and coaching. He is still only 60 years old though. He's still a young buck and not a veteran coach. All it will take is some time for him to turn it around even though he is 60 years old and was only a HC for two years in his career and that nobody else wanted him except for Buffalo.

I understand we have such a good background though that we've proved we're that much smarter then the rest of the teams in the NFL. They were just all wrong over all these years and Gailey really is a great HC. All of these years of success and smart moves give you that high standard around the league.

[BillsFever21]

Re: Bills coaches: Are they dated?

If you take away our long stretch of losing streaks over the past couple years we're 11-8 though. I guess we're not doing too bad if you take away the bad stretches.

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Re: Bills coaches: Are they dated?

Chan Gailey should have been fired last year.

dang, that girl is mezmerizing