Alex Smith

[acehole]

Re: Alex Smith

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/21486727/tenpoint-stance-big-names-out-there-but-more-teams-seek-next-tomlin

[acehole]

Re: Alex Smith

Wisenhunt was asked repeatedly about Alex Smith in interview.'


So Bills brass seems to think he is worthy of discussing even though you find it a joke.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/2...ek-next-tomlin

[Mike]

Re: Alex Smith

Ok well have you seen his record the last two years?

Have you seen that game?
Yes! In fact where I live I get all of the 49ers games and have seen Alex Smith play a number of times. In his career he has looked good exactly 2 times: 1st when Norv Turner was in charge of the offense and lastly with Harbaugh. The last 2 years, he has been a glorified game manager. Very good at that, proficient, but in a league dominated by Elite QBs he not good enough.


He is better then Fitz in any statistical way and better then anyone in the draft.
This means absolutely nothing to me. Fitz sucks and we can agree on that but actually has a better QBR than Alex Smith in last two fully played season (2010/2011). As for this year's draftees it remains to be seen.

What we do know is that Smith will miss open WR much the same way Fitz did. Smith is good when he has a top 1 defense, a great RB and TE, and a lead. Then all he has to do is throw a few play action passes to wide open WR for the win. If you look at the final stats it can be misleading. Watching the games and the play by play breakdown, you will see what his limitations are. Further QBR can show some insight into this as it takes each play and how well the player performed into account:

2011 QBR:
Alex Smith: 45.8%
Ryan Fitzpatrick: 50.5%

2010 QBR:
Alex Smith: 40.1%
Ryan Fitzpatrick: 48.4%

*2009 Fitz was a backup and did n0t play full season, in 2012 Smith is now backup and did not play full season.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/qbr/_/year/2010

I don't know that he can "do it" in Buffalo for you to say that he cant is an uninformed opinion.
ITs all opinion... all of it, but some opinions are more realistic than others. HE Could not do it in SF with an all star cast. Look at how many Pro Bowlers the 49ers have this year. In fact, the NFC PB defense has a 49er at every level... Then look at their run game, their WR and line. They are better than the Bills in all areas save for RB. Their O-line is better, their TE is way better, their WR are much better, and SMITH with all of this talent around him could not Dominate. IF he is worth getting and trading for, he should be dominant. If you want Fitz 2.o let me know because thats what it seems like.


My main point is a new coach old or retread or new is not going to want fitz or a draft pic.
How could you possibly know what a new head coach will want. Maybe the new head coach decides to go after a QB in the 2014 draft or even 2015??? Maybe they do what Shanahan did.... that is play a bunch of retreads like Rex Grossman and trade an entire draft for a the next top QB prospect.

Alex Smith is a good qb. Just because his coach benched him for his guy doesn't change his stats...his potential or his performance or value in this league.

Depends on what you mean by good and by value in this league. In the last 30 years how many good QBs have won a SB? Do you know? Because it seems like you have no idea.

In the last 30years, 28 of the winning SB QBs were HOF or future HOF QBs! The other 2 played for a defense like the 49ers but better. THe other two SB winners were teams that had HISTORICALLY GREAT DEFENSES. So unless you think the Bills Defense can turn in the the Ravens defense or the 1985 Bears Defense and allow only 165 points for the whole season (remember that they gave up almost 200pts in 4 games!) and pitch shutouts in the post season while having a 2,000 yard rusher and a HOF TE and great O-Line then the Bills have .00000000001% Chance of winning SB with Alex Smith.

or shall we just throw away every qb one game shy of sb because he didn't cut it?
Is that your barometer for signing a player? That they made it to a championship game? Every year back up QBs make it to the SB, why not sign them? And why are you giving Smith most of the credit? It was the team that him there, not the other way around. He was an average QB in 2011. He was a game manager, nothing more. All he had to do, was not lose the game.

Your post is just silly man.
Your Post have no foundation. By reading them, I would guess that your the type of fan that would be happy with a 9-7 finish. A 10-6 and maybe and one and done in the playoffs. Our goals are clearly different. You want a few win, what I want is what the Pats have, what the Cowboys and 49ers had, but something that Buffalo has only dreamed of, a SB and a dynasty.

At the end, QBs like Alex Smith are not good enough. He will not be a HOF. He probably will not make a Pro Bowl anytime soon. And history shows that QBs like that don't win the big one. So there is the real difference between us. I prefer we go 1-15 the next 3 seasons and land a guy like RG3 or Luck or Johnny Football and then dominate for the next 15 years and win a SB oppose to going 9-7 next season...

value in this league?
Of course he has value. In the following two ways: 1) he is a back up on a great team with a good-great QB... in fact his current role 2) He becomes a starter to a QB starved team like Kevin Kolb became the starter for the Cards...

[Mike]

Re: Alex Smith

Wisenhunt was asked repeatedly about Alex Smith in interview.'


So Bills brass seems to think he is worthy of discussing even though you find it a joke.

Looking at the Bills track record over the last 13 years, I am in fact getting the last laugh. A blind monkey throwing a dart at a draft board could have done a better job than the FO has.

[Mike]

Re: Alex Smith

If Smith comes to Buffalo, I hope that it does not cost the Bills a chance at a Franchise QB.
I dont want to hear members eventually complaining that Alex is not good enough after initially supporting him..if the experiment fails, DO Not Blame it on Hind Sight 20/20.... but put it in the THEY SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER Category...

IF the Jets Get ALEX SMITH, don't instantly change your mind and say he sucked all along.

If the BILLS do get Alex Smith and Co... I will wish the very best for him and the organization. I will root for him and be excited with the prospect of change and hope that he will pleasantly surprise me....

[acehole]

Re: Alex Smith

http://www.eastcoastsportsnews.com/2013_NFL_Draft.html

Whatever.

My post stands.

Your posts look like a contortionist wrote them to make a point.

You opinion is that he sucks. we got it.

Your opinion is that a coach would want a 2nd round pick as qb over alex smith got it.

If you dont win a superbowl you are not worthy to play on the bills but if we draft you in second round you are?





We can agree to disagree.

If Smith comes to Buffalo, I hope that it does not cost the Bills a chance at a Franchise QB.
I dont want to hear members eventually complaining that Alex is not good enough after initially supporting him..if the experiment fails, DO Not Blame it on Hind Sight 20/20.... but put it in the THEY SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER Category...

IF the Jets Get ALEX SMITH, don't instantly change your mind and say he sucked all along.

If the BILLS do get Alex Smith and Co... I will wish the very best for him and the organization. I will root for him and be excited with the prospect of change and hope that he will pleasantly surprise me....

[acehole]

Re: Alex Smith

This is different issue and can be argued separetly. My original post was that we interviewed Gurdan (Accoring to my info) My contention/prediction was if that happens he will want a stable qb situation as would any perspective coach as thier careers live and die by that postion usually. You wanted to argue the merits of that...fine I did. I am not advocating alex smith just the merits of such a move. In this case I would like it. We now see the blogosphere backing up my prediction of alex smith to buffalo....I also told you people we would have Ryan Fitpatrick as our next qb...and posters like you said same thing. That is one prediction I wish I didnt make...but it happened.

Stay tuned...your need for being right clouds your ability to learn anything.

Looking at the Bills track record over the last 13 years, I am in fact getting the last laugh. A blind monkey throwing a dart at a draft board could have done a better job than the FO has.

[acehole]

Re: Alex Smith

PS I love how you left out the 2012 season because it did not fit your narrative that he sucks and that fitz is no better.

Read and see how simple facts get in the way of your argument.

http://blog.sfgate.com/49ers/2012/10/08/two-years-after-hitting-bottom-alex-smith-tops-nfl-in-qb-rating/

[Mike]

Re: Alex Smith

PS I love how you left out the 2012 season because it did not fit your narrative that he sucks and that fitz is no better.

Read and see how simple facts get in the way of your argument.


http://blog.sfgate.com/49ers/2012/10...-in-qb-rating/

I mentioned in my post that I did not include 2009 & 2012 because they were incomplete years for at least one of the players.

As far who is the better QB, to me it's Smith, clearly but that doesn't mean he is good enough in my book. Now if Gruden wanted XYZ QB, regardless of who it was, I trust in his decision and ability to make it work as he has demonstrated himself to be one of the Best QB gurus of our generation.

[Historian]

Re: Alex Smith

WE could probably still get Levi Brown back....

[acehole]

Re: Alex Smith

I mentioned in my post that I did not include 2009 & 2012 because they were incomplete years for at least one of the players.

As far who is the better QB, to me it's Smith, clearly but that doesn't mean he is good enough in my book. Now if Gruden wanted XYZ QB, regardless of who it was, I trust in his decision and ability to make it work as he has demonstrated himself to be one of the Best QB gurus of our generation.

You have a very small book.

[sukie]

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Gruden a QB Guru? Really? Where?

He did well with Gannon who was a veteran QB... Okay fine. He got alot of mileage out of him but after that...

Brian Griese, Chris Simms, Bruce Gradkowski and two meh seasons with Jeff Garcia.

[Typ0]

Re: Alex Smith

Smith would be a huge upgrade at the QB position for us. The guy has demonstrated he can play and to even suggest that is not as good as a joe football draft pick is asinine. Bring him in and we should all be happy with the move.

[SABURZFAN]

Re: Alex Smith

Alex Smith is NOT a solution at QB, at best he is a stop gap which can most likely cost you the chance of drafting a top talent in the near future. Just look at the guy's track record. He has had 1 good season leading the 49ers to the Championship game only later to be barely resigned by the 49ers. This year he lost his job via injury to a second year second round QB who has given the offense quite the spark.

All of this is quite amazing. How often does a starting QB on a potentially SB winning team lose his job? When was the last time that that happened? Its a testament that he is not good enough even when all the other pieces are in place.

but.. but.. but acehole says Smith is the guy. he's right more times than he is wrong too. he said it so you HAVE to believe him.

[acehole]

Re: Alex Smith

Says the Jealous stalker who never posts about football.

Whats a matter fatty no buffets at Casino Niagara to empty?

If you can find your mom give her all my love.

but.. but.. but acehole says Smith is the guy. he's right more times than he is wrong too. he said it so you HAVE to believe him.