A clean slate

[Guest]

Re: A clean slate

Watching EJ develop is going to be fun.

[OpIv37]

Re: A clean slate

These Rookies will have had better Coaching from what they have shown & said.

As I said before 6-10 was because of the great Coaching & system of Wannstedt as well as the great QB play by Fitz.

I have said it was my OPINION.

BUT your view is also OPINION, NOT fact.

You don't know that they have better coaching- Marrone was 25-25 at Syracuse and has never been an an NFL HC. So, saying they have better coaching is opinion, not fact.

You lose yet again.

[BillsFever21]

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I think Marrone will be better but we heard the same stuff when Gailey took over for Jauron, when Jauron took over for Mularkey, when Mularkey took over for Williams, etc.

At least we knew(some of us at least) that Jauron and especially Gailey were duds. The same people were on here saying how great of coaches they were and that Jauron was the coach of the year. If I remember correctly better days was one of the guys who wanted to keep Gailey for another season and argued with me about his lack of success in college. He said a 7-6 record in college and one winning season in the NFL was considered a success and wasn't being a proven loser as a coach.

[better days]

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You don't know that they have better coaching- Marrone was 25-25 at Syracuse and has never been an an NFL HC. So, saying they have better coaching is opinion, not fact.

You lose yet again.

I don't lose anything I have told you YES it is MY OPINION.

JUST as EVERYTHING you have said is YOUR OPINION.

[better days]

Re: A clean slate

I think Marrone will be better but we heard the same stuff when Gailey took over for Jauron, when Jauron took over for Mularkey, when Mularkey took over for Williams, etc.

At least we knew(some of us at least) that Jauron and especially Gailey were duds. The same people were on here saying how great of coaches they were and that Jauron was the coach of the year. If I remember correctly better days was one of the guys who wanted to keep Gailey for another season and argued with me about his lack of success in college. He said a 7-6 record in college and one winning season in the NFL was considered a success and wasn't being a proven loser as a coach.

I don't remember that argument. But if you think it was last year, it did not happen.

When I saw Chan play Fitz over T Jax when we all knew Fitz SUCKED & the way he did not give Spiller the ball enough last year, I wanted him fired as much as anyone.

When Chan was hired, I wanted Brian Billick myself & felt about Chan like I feel about Marrone now. I was willing to give him a chance just as I am giving Marrone a chance.

But I agree with you, from what I have seen from Marrone so far I think he will be better than any HC since Wade.

And as I have said since he was hired, if Marrone fails to win 6 games minimum this year, I want him fired as another in the long list of losers.

[OpIv37]

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I don't lose anything I have told you YES it is MY OPINION.

JUST as EVERYTHING you have said is YOUR OPINION.

And my opinion is supported by fact. Yours is supported by nothing, as usual.

[better days]

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And my opinion is supported by fact. Yours is supported by nothing, as usual.

WHAT FACTS SUPPORT YOUR OPINION & WHY HAVE YOU NOT PRESENTED THEM IF THEY DO?

To say the Bills went 6-10 is a fact, but that does not support your opinion anymore than it does mine.

Your opinion is the Bills were 6-10 because of the players.

My opinion is the Bills were 6-10 because of poor coaching.

[Night Train]

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You're going to be severely disappointed. What has EJ Manuel done to make you think he will be a franchise QB? Nothing to date. This is all the same false hype we saw before Gregg Williams first real game, Mike Mularkey's first game and Gailey's first game.

That's the spirit !

[Night Train]

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And my opinion is supported by fact. Yours is supported by nothing, as usual.

Facts applied to the past, which Marrone has zero to do with.

I want to see the play before panning it in the newspaper.

[SabreEleven]

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The only thing this thread is missing is better days comparing this team to the 90's Bills.

[swiper]

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That's the spirit !

And yet I continue to watch. I can't stop myself. The Bills bring out the id vs. ego battle within oneself.

[mayotm]

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I think Better Days enthusiasm is a bit over the top. That stated, he is a fan posting on a Bills message board. Any reasonable person would understand they will encounter Bills homers on a Bills message board. I'll take a homer over some of you miserable *****s any day.

[OpIv37]

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I think Better Days enthusiasm is a bit over the top. That stated, he is a fan posting on a Bills message board. Any reasonable person would understand they will encounter Bills homers on a Bills message board. I'll take a homer over some of you miserable *****s any day.

It's reality- sometimes reality is miserable. Deal with it.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

Re: A clean slate

I think Better Days enthusiasm is a bit over the top. That stated, he is a fan posting on a Bills message board. Any reasonable person would understand they will encounter Bills homers on a Bills message board. I'll take a homer over some of you miserable *****s any day.

Homers are fine. Guys who post complete garbage but call his bs FACTS annoy me.

[OpIv37]

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WHAT FACTS SUPPORT YOUR OPINION & WHY HAVE YOU NOT PRESENTED THEM IF THEY DO?

To say the Bills went 6-10 is a fact, but that does not support your opinion anymore than it does mine.

Your opinion is the Bills were 6-10 because of the players.

My opinion is the Bills were 6-10 because of poor coaching.

You saying that the facts don't support my opiion doesn't change the reality that they do. Bad coaching alone didn't get us to 10 losses. But once again, whatever supports the delusion, right? You HAVE to believe that it was all coaching because that's the only way to support your belief that the team will be good this year. Facts be damned!