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Yes, it was. Greatest baseball player of all time anyway, IMO. A childhood hero.
I love ya, Brother, and I love Willie Mays. But any discussion of the greatest baseball player of all time begins and ends with Babe Ruth. The numbers are crushing, and his impact on the game and on our culture are unmatched by any athlete, ever.
I love ya, Brother, and I love Willie Mays. But any discussion of the greatest baseball player of all time begins and ends with Babe Ruth. The numbers are crushing, and his impact on the game and on our culture are unmatched by any athlete, ever.
You can make a case for Ruth, but I don't think his fielding or running ability even comes close to Mays. If Willie didn't play most of his career at Candlestick, with the wind blowing in from the ocean, he may have broken all of Ruth's HR records.
You can make a case for Ruth, but I don't think his fielding or running ability even comes close to Mays. If Willie didn't play most of his career at Candlestick, with the wind blowing in from the ocean, he may have broken all of Ruth's HR records.
In order to evaluate baseball players from different eras, the only real way to do it is to compare them against their contemporaries. When Babe Ruth broke the all time home run record, it was 138 home runs. He finished with 714, hitting most of his HRs in the "dead ball era."
When Ruth hit 60 HRs in one season, no other TEAM in the American League has 60 HRs that year.
Here are a few other facts:
Ruth retired as the career record-holder in home runs, RBIs, total bases, walks, strikeouts, on-base percentage and slugging percentage as well as the single-season record-holder in home runs, total bases, walks and slugging, and he was briefly the single-season record-holder in RBIs during his career.
Ruth set the single-season record for RBIs with 171 in 1921, though future teammate Lou Gehrig broke that record just six years later. Ruth’s career total of 2,220 stood as the record until Hank Aaron broke it in 1975.
Ruth set the single season record for walks twice, with 150 in 1920 and 170 in 1923. The latter mark stood until 2001, when Barry Bonds walked 177 times. Ruth held the career mark for bases on balls from 1930-2001 when Rickey Henderson passed him.
Ruth never struck out 100 times in a season, though he did retire as the career strikeouts leader with 1,330. He no longer ranks in the top 100 in that category.
Ruth set the single-season record for total bases with 457 in 1921 and still holds it today.
Ruth set the single-season record for slugging percentage in 1920 at .847. It stood until Bonds broke it in 2001. Ruth’s career slugging percentage of .690 remains the major league record. Ted Williams is second at .634.
Ruth’s career on-base percentage of .474 is second behind only Williams’ .482.
Ruth’s career OPS of 1.164 remains the record, as does his career OPS+ of 206. The latter stat adjusts OPS for a player’s home ballpark and compares it to his league with 100 being league average. Ruth’s career OPS+ is thus more than twice as good as an average mark. By way of comparison, the last player to have a single-season OPS or OPS+ higher than Ruth’s career was Barry Bonds in 2004.
Ruth is the career leader in Baseball-Reference.com’s wins above replacement (183.8, including a record 163.2 as a hitter) and is the owner of the top three single-season bWAR totals of all time: 14.0 in 1923, 12.9 in 1921, and 12.4 in 1927.
Ruth led the majors in home runs 11 times, slugging 11 times, walks 11 times, OBP 10 times, runs eight times, RBIs six times, total bases six times, OPS and OPS+ 11 times and bWAR seven times.
Ruth was one of the five initial inductees to the Baseball Hall of Fame in 1936 along with Ty Cobb, Honus Wagner, Walter Johnson and Christy Mathewson. Out of that group, only Cobb had a higher percentage of the vote than the 95.1 percent Ruth received just six months after his retirement.
Notice the number of triples Ruth had. Only 4 less than Mays.
But the big thing to note is that any wind disadvantage encountered by Mays is more than offset by the significantly greater number of at bats he had, due in large part to the fact that Ruth was a Pitcher for the first few years of his career (and a great one).
Plus, Mays played 4 years in NY before the Giants moved.
Care to compare the number of HOF pitchers since integration of the Negro Leagues? It pisses all over your argument.
Does the case account for the historical trend of taking african-american athletes and turning them into field player over pitchers due to perceptions about them having less intelligence?
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There's only one Bob Gibson or Ferguson Jenkins for every ten truly great Pitchers like Warren Spahn, Grover Cleveland Alexander, Cy Young, Sandy Koufax, Lefty Grove, Christie Matthewson, Carl Hubbell... I could go on for days. Any of those pitchers would have dominated in the Negro Leagues.
The pitching in the American and National Leagues was far better, regardless of race.
By the way, Mays faced pitchers in an integrated National League, so that argument is B U L L S H I T.
Does the case account for the historical trend of taking african-american athletes and turning them into field player over pitchers due to perceptions about them having less intelligence?
There's absolutely aero evidence to suggest that. This isn't football. We're not talking about Quarterbacks.
Are you suggesting that happens today? Because that's nonsense, and there is still roughly the same percentage of black pitchers.
If you think that's going on, you don't know jack **** about baseball.
Pitchers are gold. If you're from Mars and can snap off a splitter or throw gas, you're pitching.
What you and others are trying to do is make racist comments. You assume that because African Americans make better cornerbacks or shooting guards, that they naturally make better pitchers. Absolute nonsense.
Besides, pitching isn't about intelligence. It's about arm talent. Catchers call most pitches, and it's been that way forever. You simply pulled that out of your ass because it fits some asinine liberal narrative.
Last edited by WagonCircler; 04-27-2014, 07:19 PM.
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