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  • Night Train
    Retired - On Several Levels
    • Jul 2005
    • 33117

    #16
    Re: Watch St. Louis Rams...QB Related

    Another All-Whirlpool.

    Spends far too much time on IR.

    Zero mobility.

    Broken glass.

    Sounds perfect for the old Bills.. but let's start a new era of doing things the right way under Pegula.
    Anonymity is an abused privilege, abused most by people who mistake vitriol for wisdom and cynicism for wit

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    • Swiper
      Registered User
      • Sep 2010
      • 33105

      #17
      Re: Watch St. Louis Rams...QB Related

      Both QBs would be a step back from Orton. Why even ask the question? Austin's ceiling is Fiitzpatrick. Bradford's ship has, unfortunately, sailed with the most recent injury adding to his list of such.

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      • better days
        Registered User
        • Jan 2010
        • 22028

        #18
        Re: Watch St. Louis Rams...QB Related

        Originally posted by DraftBoy View Post
        The Rams are going to have a difficult decision ahead of them in the offseason. Sam Bradford is coming off yet another injury and youngster Austin Davis has looked really good over the last few weeks throwing the ball (66% cmp pct, 9 TD, 4 INT, 7.3 YPA). He's not going to wow you with arm strength or athleticism but he's been good on a bad Rams team.

        The Rams have a 15+ million dollar cap number in Bradford in 2015 so unless they plan to eat that and cut him they are going to have to make a choice. Davis is a RFA after this year and with the way he has played he's going to have some suitors. So if you think he could be the guy do you take a shot and offer him a sizable deal and force St. Louis to pass on him?
        I remember arguing with you DraftBoy about Bradford after he was drafted.

        I said Bradford would be average/mediocre at best.

        You said he was going to be a Franchise QB.

        Looks like I win that argument.

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        • Goobylal
          Registered User
          • Jan 2004
          • 19366

          #19
          Re: Watch St. Louis Rams...QB Related

          I'd just assume stick with Orton and see what he can do with a full off-season and training camp, and some improvements to the O-line. The problem is it looks like his 2-year contract has an option for him to avoid next year, which means the Bills might have to pay a lot to retain/re-sign him. As for Davis, the Rams will most likely tender him at the first round level, and he'll want a huge salary as well.

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          • OpIv37
            Acid Douching Asswipe
            • Sep 2002
            • 101229

            #20
            Re: Watch St. Louis Rams...QB Related

            Davis wreaks of another Matt Cassell/Rob Johnson situation and RFA means compensation to the Rams to sign him. No thanks.

            And unless Orton completely tanks the rest of the year, then Bradford is no better. He's just a more expensive option. He's younger than Orton so he'd buy us time but that's the only advantage/
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            • Forward_Lateral
              Registered User
              • Mar 2004
              • 29894

              #21
              Re: Watch St. Louis Rams...QB Related

              If Bradford wasn't a china doll, maybe he'd be worth a look, but that's not the case, so no thanks.

              Like OP said, if Orton continues to play like he has so far, the Bills won't be as desperate for a franchise QB. They won't have to jump on the first available guy like they did with Rob Johnson and Drew Bledsoe.

              Hey, maybe this time watching will help EJ. I don't think (I could be wrong) that he was able to watch any games from the sidelines last year and interact with the coaches/starting QB at all. Again, I could be wrong.

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              • better days
                Registered User
                • Jan 2010
                • 22028

                #22
                Re: Watch St. Louis Rams...QB Related

                Originally posted by Goobylal View Post
                I'd just assume stick with Orton and see what he can do with a full off-season and training camp, and some improvements to the O-line. The problem is it looks like his 2-year contract has an option for him to avoid next year, which means the Bills might have to pay a lot to retain/re-sign him. As for Davis, the Rams will most likely tender him at the first round level, and he'll want a huge salary as well.
                My understanding is the Bills have the right to retain Orton next year for $10 Mill.

                Of course Orton could decide to "retire" again next year.

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                • better days
                  Registered User
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 22028

                  #23
                  Re: Watch St. Louis Rams...QB Related

                  Originally posted by Forward_Lateral View Post
                  If Bradford wasn't a china doll, maybe he'd be worth a look, but that's not the case, so no thanks.

                  Like OP said, if Orton continues to play like he has so far, the Bills won't be as desperate for a franchise QB. They won't have to jump on the first available guy like they did with Rob Johnson and Drew Bledsoe.

                  Hey, maybe this time watching will help EJ. I don't think (I could be wrong) that he was able to watch any games from the sidelines last year and interact with the coaches/starting QB at all. Again, I could be wrong.
                  Well, I think EJ watched games last year, but he was watching Thad & Tuel, not a seasoned vet like Orton.

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                  • kscdogbillsfan1221
                    Registered User
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 5651

                    #24
                    Re: Watch St. Louis Rams...QB Related

                    Originally posted by better days View Post
                    My understanding is the Bills have the right to retain Orton next year for $10 Mill.

                    Of course Orton could decide to "retire" again next year.

                    highly doubtful he'll 'retire' again, especially if he's starting, playing decently well and making 10 mil.
                    I came.
                    I saw.
                    I conquered.

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                    • better days
                      Registered User
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 22028

                      #25
                      Re: Watch St. Louis Rams...QB Related

                      Originally posted by kscdogbillsfan1221 View Post
                      highly doubtful he'll 'retire' again, especially if he's starting, playing decently well and making 10 mil.
                      Agreed. I think we can expect to see Kyle behind Center next year.

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                      • Typ0
                        honey pie
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 32592

                        #26
                        Re: Watch St. Louis Rams...QB Related

                        I like the QB squad we have right now ... let EJ beat Orton out when he's ready ... GOOD DEAL! ... way better than his being given the job by default. I would bet Marrone's *****ing was about being told EJ was playing ... and the talk about how he made the decision to bench him had already been decided between them and/or Marone didn't really care what they said any more they could fire him or he was going to put Orton in there. None of that means Marrone doesn't think EJ can play thought it's more a readiness thing. I must be crazy I think we should stick with the QBs and coach Marrone.

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                          honey pie
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 32592

                          #27
                          Re: Watch St. Louis Rams...QB Related

                          Got up from the computer and came back to notice I wrote "I like the QB squad right now". WOW.

                          I would take a better more long-term solution but where is he? Certainly not Bradford.

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                          • BuffaloRedleg
                            Registered User
                            • Aug 2013
                            • 1270

                            #28
                            Re: Watch St. Louis Rams...QB Related

                            Am I the only one who thinks that Cutler may be on the outs in Chicago? Would he be worth it to you guys, and what do you think we'd have to give up?

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                            • casdhf
                              Registered User
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 17542

                              #29
                              Re: Watch St. Louis Rams...QB Related

                              Originally posted by BuffaloRedleg View Post
                              Am I the only one who thinks that Cutler may be on the outs in Chicago? Would he be worth it to you guys, and what do you think we'd have to give up?
                              Hope for a future in the playoffs.

                              No Cutler.
                              Originally posted by BillsZone Mod
                              cas,

                              I'm just letting you know that you have been given 2 points for telling Wys AKA Mark to kill himself.

                              BillsZone Mod

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                              • better days
                                Registered User
                                • Jan 2010
                                • 22028

                                #30
                                Re: Watch St. Louis Rams...QB Related

                                Originally posted by BuffaloRedleg View Post
                                Am I the only one who thinks that Cutler may be on the outs in Chicago? Would he be worth it to you guys, and what do you think we'd have to give up?
                                The Bears new HC Marc Trestman is supposed to be an offensive genius/QB guru.

                                If he can't get everything out of Cutler that is in him, who can?

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