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  • Spartacus
    Registered User
    • Mar 2003
    • 53975

    #46
    Re: Ask A Scientist: Deflategate Is Trumped Up Nonsense

    Originally posted by Ingtar33 View Post
    and the colt's footballs were within spec all game long because they are mutant footballs that ignore the laws of thermodynamics?
    The Colts could have filled their balls with cold air outside. Therefore no temperature drop and no deflation.

    Probably that's what happened when they filled the balls up at half time. They did it outside.

    See, the funny thing is EVERYONE went off on this calling the Pats cheaters and it wasn't until I mentioned the temperature issue the first time (before any of the media chimed in) that people even THOUGHT about it.

    But the fact is that iof you fill a ball with warm air to a certain psi, if you take it into the cold, it will lose pressure. That's not cheating. If people want to claim it "skirted" the rules, the only people to blame are the people that wrote the rule. Don't hate the Pats for NOT BREAKING THE RULES, just cu2 you feel like it did.
    Last edited by CommissarSpartacus; 01-26-2015, 05:40 PM.
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    • Spartacus
      Registered User
      • Mar 2003
      • 53975

      #47
      Re: Ask A Scientist: Deflategate Is Trumped Up Nonsense

      Originally posted by Strongman View Post
      BS
      Dude, the Wilson guy can only attest to how the balls leave the factory, and it only takes an air pressure gauge to deflate one.

      And the fact is that footballs, like tires, lose air pressure as the temperature drops. It's high school physics.

      Jenkins is just covering his company's ass...
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      • Discotrish
        Raging hypocrite and resident troll
        • Nov 2003
        • 40640

        #48
        Re: Ask A Scientist: Deflategate Is Trumped Up Nonsense

        Originally posted by Spartacus
        Hah! I bet this "scientist" is on Al Gore's payroll too with the global warming nonsense!

        Christians don't need scientists to tell us who's good and who's evil!

        Crucify them!

        Ask A Scientist: Deflategate Is Trumped Up Nonsense

        Note to scandal seekers: Gases lose volume when it’s cold, meaning the Patriots may not have done anything wrong.


        Ask A Scientist: Deflategate Is Trumped Up Nonsense
        Note to scandal seekers: Gases lose volume when it’s cold, meaning the Patriots may not have done anything wrong.

        New England Patriots coach Bill Belichick says that he is “not a scientist,” but a basic law of physics taught in high school may well vindicate his team in the controversy dubbed DeflateGate.

        On a blackboard, the Ideal Gas Law is written thus:

        PV=nRT

        The P stands for pressure, the V for volume. The n is the amount of gas, the R a mathematical constant. The T is temperature.
        LRA + UF = DS

        Locker Room Attendant plus Unsupervised Footballs = Deflation Scandal

        Patti
        Note: Discotrish information is Conspiralicious and has NO BASIS IN FACT. Considering her opinions may be HAZARDOUS TO YOUR HEALTH. Please do not get your medical advice from a subforum of a subforum of a sports message board.

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        • Strongman
          Registered User
          • Apr 2006
          • 763

          #49
          Re: Ask A Scientist: Deflategate Is Trumped Up Nonsense

          Originally posted by Spartacus View Post
          Dude, the Wilson guy can only attest to how the balls leave the factory, and it only takes an air pressure gauge to deflate one.

          And the fact is that footballs, like tires, lose air pressure as the temperature drops. It's high school physics.

          Jenkins is just covering his company's ass...
          Dude,

          Don't you think that Wilson, like I don't know, basically everyone else in manufacturing has a QA department that extensively tests their products under varying conditions? They know how their products perform on the field better than anybody else...

          In the tens of thousands of games played over the years, please explain how no one else has noticed this deflation before?

          They are cheating!

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          • YardRat
            Well, lookie here...
            • Dec 2004
            • 86197

            #50
            Re: Ask A Scientist: Deflategate Is Trumped Up Nonsense

            I think it's funnier than **** that physicists are lining up on both sides of this argument, some saying it's possible, some saying it isn't. These people can't even agree on something as simple as temperature's affect on air pressure, yet some still swallow whole the 97% consensus on global warming propaganda. What a hoot.

            That being said, there have been differing opinions from all kinds of 'experts' (scientists, QB's, etc) but the majority seem to be falling on the 'liar, liar, pants on fire' side of the fence.
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            • Discotrish
              Raging hypocrite and resident troll
              • Nov 2003
              • 40640

              #51
              Re: Ask A Scientist: Deflategate Is Trumped Up Nonsense

              Somebody needs to get Lee Harvey Equipment Guy into protective custody!

              Patti
              Note: Discotrish information is Conspiralicious and has NO BASIS IN FACT. Considering her opinions may be HAZARDOUS TO YOUR HEALTH. Please do not get your medical advice from a subforum of a subforum of a sports message board.

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              • Spartacus
                Registered User
                • Mar 2003
                • 53975

                #52
                Re: Ask A Scientist: Deflategate Is Trumped Up Nonsense

                Originally posted by Strongman View Post
                Dude,

                Don't you think that Wilson, like I don't know, basically everyone else in manufacturing has a QA department that extensively tests their products under varying conditions? They know how their products perform on the field better than anybody else...
                It has nothing to do with the footballs.

                It's about the air INSIDE the football and there isn't one set of physics for Wilson and another set for the rest of the world...
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                • Discotrish
                  Raging hypocrite and resident troll
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 40640

                  #53
                  Re: Ask A Scientist: Deflategate Is Trumped Up Nonsense

                  Originally posted by Spartacus View Post
                  It has nothing to do with the footballs.

                  It's about the air INSIDE the football and there isn't one set of physics for Wilson and another set for the rest of the world...
                  Still with this?

                  I think you've gone autistic on us.

                  Patti
                  Note: Discotrish information is Conspiralicious and has NO BASIS IN FACT. Considering her opinions may be HAZARDOUS TO YOUR HEALTH. Please do not get your medical advice from a subforum of a subforum of a sports message board.

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                  • harmonkoz
                    Spartacus is a troll
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 163

                    #54
                    Re: Ask A Scientist: Deflategate Is Trumped Up Nonsense

                    The Dolphins Blow, the Jets Swallow, and the Patriots take it in the arse.

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                    • Strongman
                      Registered User
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 763

                      #55
                      Re: Ask A Scientist: Deflategate Is Trumped Up Nonsense

                      Originally posted by Spartacus View Post
                      It has nothing to do with the footballs.

                      It's about the air INSIDE the football and there isn't one set of physics for Wilson and another set for the rest of the world...
                      Please give a rational explanation on why, in the many thousands of games played in colder weather, this hasn't been observed before?

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                      • coastal
                        Legendary Zoner
                        • Mar 2005
                        • 15513

                        #56
                        Re: Ask A Scientist: Deflategate Is Trumped Up Nonsense

                        Originally posted by Strongman View Post
                        Please give a rational explanation on why, in the many thousands of games played in colder weather, this hasn't been observed before?
                        Because then he couldn't get attention?

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                        • Spartacus
                          Registered User
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 53975

                          #57
                          Re: Ask A Scientist: Deflategate Is Trumped Up Nonsense

                          Originally posted by Strongman View Post
                          Please give a rational explanation on why, in the many thousands of games played in colder weather, this hasn't been observed before?
                          What hasn't been observed before? That the ball loses pressure as the air inside it cools?
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                          • sukie
                            Seriously?
                            • Sep 2012
                            • 21512

                            #58
                            Re: Ask A Scientist: Deflategate Is Trumped Up Nonsense

                            Originally posted by Spartacus View Post
                            What hasn't been observed before? That the ball loses pressure as the air inside it cools?
                            for 11 of 12 balls for one of two teams playing in equal conditions? It could be suggested that the Colts over inflated against the rules to account for the loss of pressure. THAT would also be cheating

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                            • Spartacus
                              Registered User
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 53975

                              #59
                              Re: Ask A Scientist: Deflategate Is Trumped Up Nonsense

                              Originally posted by sukie View Post
                              for 11 of 12 balls for one of two teams playing in equal conditions? It could be suggested that the Colts over inflated against the rules to account for the loss of pressure. THAT would also be cheating
                              When the Colts turned the balls over, they were within limits. 12.5 - 13.5.

                              When they were tested at halftime, they were only reported as still within limits, which could be 12.5. So they could have lost a psi and still be okay.
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                              • DynaPaul
                                Registered User
                                • Sep 2003
                                • 7540

                                #60
                                Re: Ask A Scientist: Deflategate Is Trumped Up Nonsense

                                I actually saw the accused Patriots attendant yesterday. He didn't seem that stressed out despite all of the blame coming down on him and he even let me take his picture.

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