evander kane saga

[JATMtheJATM]

Looks like evander Kane has worn out his welcome in Winnipeg. Also possible they trade him for cheap. Would you take him?

http://deadspin.com/report-dustin-byfuglien-threw-evander-kanes-tracksuit-1684045906?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_facebook&utm_source=deadspin_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

[gebobs]

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I there has even been a guy in need of a fresh start, it's him.

Sure, why not?

[mightysimi]

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I don't think it will be that cheap. Cheaper than before the incident but 23 year old former 30 goal scorers don't grow on trees. Regardless of his recent performance.

[casdhf]

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We have a few guys that could need fresh starts. Is Meyers worth more? I think so. Meyers and the Blues 1st for Kane, their first, and a prospect?

[mightysimi]

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We have a few guys that could need fresh starts. Is Meyers worth more? I think so. Meyers and the Blues 1st for Kane, their first, and a prospect?

Winnipeg is pretty set on D. They need help up front. Stewart and a pick might do it.

[The King]

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Effort has been an issue with Kane hard to think that could be corrected on a team that's tanking.

[JATMtheJATM]

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Effort has been an issue with Kane hard to think that could be corrected on a team that's tanking.

Hes also injured and could be out the remainder of the year. Needs surgury. Trade for him, have him get his surgury, he comes back next year with a better roster. Problem solved.

Blues first and Stewart could get it done. Winnipeg is trying to get younger as well but also in the hunt. Might be a little shallow though, trade wise.

[mightysimi]

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Hes also injured and could be out the remainder of the year. Needs surgury. Trade for him, have him get his surgury, he comes back next year with a better roster. Problem solved.

Blues first and Stewart could get it done. Winnipeg is trying to get younger as well but also in the hunt. Might be a little shallow though, trade wise.

Get younger? Who on the team is over 30? Enstrom, Stuart and Thorburn who believe they are 31. That's it. I think they are looking for an asset that can be used this year. Now that he is hurt, all bets are off.

[Guest]

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Hes also injured and could be out the remainder of the year. Needs surgury. Trade for him, have him get his surgury, he comes back next year with a better roster. Problem solved.

Blues first and Stewart could get it done. Winnipeg is trying to get younger as well but also in the hunt. Might be a little shallow though, trade wise.

You missed an opportunity to correct the poster.

The Sabres are not tanking.

They are innocent victims of having a poor team that they could not have done anything to improve last year or this year.

They are One with the City of Buffalo and its history.

[JATMtheJATM]

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You missed an opportunity to correct the poster.

The Sabres are not tanking.

They are innocent victims of having a poor team that they could not have done anything to improve last year or this year.

They are One with the City of Buffalo and its history.

You missed the opportunity to use logic and reasoning. No one is surprised.

[Guest]

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You missed the opportunity to use logic and reasoning. No one is surprised.

Now you have me confused.

Is the lie Sabre fans are trying to convince themselves of that the Sabres are not intentionally tanking by design or something else?

Remember no rules are being broken. There is no rule that a team must try to win last year, this year or even next year.

[JATMtheJATM]

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Now you have me confused.

Is the lie Sabre fans are trying to convince themselves of that the Sabres are not intentionally tanking by design or something else?

Remember no rules are being broken. There is no rule that a team must try to win last year, this year or even next year.

Of course no rule is being broken. The Sabres are simply rebuilding in a way that many have done before them. A simple point you seem to ignore.

[chernobylwraiths]

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Now you have me confused.

Is the lie Sabre fans are trying to convince themselves of that the Sabres are not intentionally tanking by design or something else?

Remember no rules are being broken. There is no rule that a team must try to win last year, this year or even next year.

Let us try one more time.

The Sabres lack talent. There are three ways to get talent, trade for it, sign free agents and draft talent. Now, it is very difficult to get older talent to sign with a bad team. Even trading for talent can be difficult because top end talent cost a lot in terms of potential talent and current talent and draft picks. So, there are many ways to get talent, but they all have their drawbacks. On top of this, when you lose your own talent as the Sabres had for years in free agency, it is virtually impossible to replace. And if you know you are going to lose your own talent, the ONLY recourse you have it to trade it away for some asset that you can use.

Now, you begrudge the Sabres trading away talent that wasn't helping them win in the now (last two years) in order to get assets to help them in the future (draft picks and minor leaguers). These things traded for were in no way going to help in the immediate future for the organization, or at least had very little chance to help right away. Hence, the Sabres had to get worse to get better.

Some people believe that you should try to make the roster the best you can possibly make it every chance you get. How is that to be achieved by a bad team that has no chance of signing top end free agent talent? It HAS to be through trades (which the Sabres aren't going to trade away high picks they they painstakingly aquired for nothing) or through the draft, which is what they are doing.

As Opiv said, doing your best to try to achieve the 8th playoff spot does nothing for the organization except keep it mediocre. The previous regime had done that for years, but there was no more elite goalie to keep them competative.

I don't like to lose, but in doing so, they are giving themselves a good chance to make themselves so much better for the near future. And not just with McDavid/Eichel. If they have a chance to add this young talented player and don't see him as a major disctraction going forward, a young 30 goal scorer would help this team greatly in the future and they should try to get him.

[JATMtheJATM]

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Let us try one more time.

The Sabres lack talent. There are three ways to get talent, trade for it, sign free agents and draft talent. Now, it is very difficult to get older talent to sign with a bad team. Even trading for talent can be difficult because top end talent cost a lot in terms of potential talent and current talent and draft picks. So, there are many ways to get talent, but they all have their drawbacks. On top of this, when you lose your own talent as the Sabres had for years in free agency, it is virtually impossible to replace. And if you know you are going to lose your own talent, the ONLY recourse you have it to trade it away for some asset that you can use.

Now, you begrudge the Sabres trading away talent that wasn't helping them win in the now (last two years) in order to get assets to help them in the future (draft picks and minor leaguers). These things traded for were in no way going to help in the immediate future for the organization, or at least had very little chance to help right away. Hence, the Sabres had to get worse to get better.

Some people believe that you should try to make the roster the best you can possibly make it every chance you get. How is that to be achieved by a bad team that has no chance of signing top end free agent talent? It HAS to be through trades (which the Sabres aren't going to trade away high picks they they painstakingly aquired for nothing) or through the draft, which is what they are doing.

As Opiv said, doing your best to try to achieve the 8th playoff spot does nothing for the organization except keep it mediocre. The previous regime had done that for years, but there was no more elite goalie to keep them competative.

I don't like to lose, but in doing so, they are giving themselves a good chance to make themselves so much better for the near future. And not just with McDavid/Eichel. If they have a chance to add this young talented player and don't see him as a major disctraction going forward, a young 30 goal scorer would help this team greatly in the future and they should try to get him.

Not only that, but the draft is but one stage of a rebuild. You rebuild through the draft, get a base, and make trades. Sprinkle in free agents to round out the team. It's a painstaking process and the Sabres are getting to stage two soon, once this draft is complete, in my opinion.

[DraftBoy]

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Kane will undergo season ending surgery.