When you discuss deflatgate with non football fans

[Strongman]

Re: When you discuss deflatgate with non football fans

What is stopping Tom from noticing the balls were over filled and informing the refs of their mistake? Seems like you could remedy this situation extremely quickly during pre-game warmups. Especially since Tom can notice the difference between 12.5 and 13.5 psi, even though he claims he wouldn't notice. There just seems like ways to fix this problem that don't violate any rules.

The day after Brady used a 16-psi ball in the Jets game:

McNally: "Tom sucks…im going to make that next ball a f—in balDemocrat." (Oct. 17, 2014)
Jastremski: "Talked to him last night. He actually brought you up and said you must have a lot of stress trying to get them done…" (Oct. 17, 2014)
McNally: "16 is nothing… wait till next Sunday" (Oct. 17, 2014)

It sounds like McNally was unable to deflate at least one of the balls used in the Jets game. It doesn't sound like McNally inflated the ball in the Jets game, but clearly he is threatening to inflate balls in the future because he is mad at Tom. It definitely points to a systemic program of tampering with psi, with the process being driven by Tom Brady and strong indications that the lackeys doing the dirty work are reluctant participants threatening to undermine the scheme.

The following week McNally is clearly still PO'd at Brady:

McNally: "Make sure you blow up the ball to look like a rugby ball so tom can get used to it before Sunday" (Oct. 21, 2014)

McNally: "F— tom….make sure the pump is attached to the needle…..f—in watermelons coming" (Oct. 23, 2014)

He is clearly threatening to INFLATE balls to get back at Brady. Why would McNally be mad at Tom Brady?

Seems like Brady is an ass to these underlings.

[better days]

Re: When you discuss deflatgate with non football fans

Is there, or is there NOT a non-disclosure agreement?

Don't imagine, tell me what you know.

I know as much as you about the entire matter.

Which is to say nothing but what I have read.

But you try to pass off opinions of Pats* fans as facts.

This is not a tv cartoon or sitcom.

[CommissarSpartacus]

Re: When you discuss deflatgate with non football fans

I know as much as you about the entire matter.

Which is to say nothing but what I have read.

But you try to pass off opinions of Pats* fans as facts.

This is not a tv cartoon or sitcom.

So, you DON'T know if there's a non-disclosure agreement.

Neither do I, nor have I read about one, so there is no reason to think that a non-disclosure agreement comes into play at all.

Thus, the question remains...

Why don't these two rat out Tom Brady if he's guilty? It seems they don't like him that much, so why should they protect him?

Could it possibly be that Brady isn't guilty and never asked the two to break any rules?

[CommissarSpartacus]

Re: When you discuss deflatgate with non football fans

I bet his footballs are within spec on gameday though.

There is no evidence that Tom Brady's footballs weren't within spec either.

[better days]

Re: When you discuss deflatgate with non football fans

So, you DON'T know if there's a non-disclosure agreement.

Neither do I, nor have I read about one, so there is no reason to think that a non-disclosure agreement comes into play at all.

Thus, the question remains...

Why don't these two rat out Tom Brady if he's guilty? It seems they don't like him that much, so why should they protect him?

Could it possibly be that Brady isn't guilty and never asked the two to break any rules?

Well, I did read about it on profootballtalk.com.

You can go through their archives to find it.

And non-disclosure agreements are pretty common.

[CommissarSpartacus]

Re: When you discuss deflatgate with non football fans

Well, I did read about it on profootballtalk.com.

You can go through their archives to find it.

And non-disclosure agreements are pretty common.

Yes, they are and we'd be hearing about it regularly if there was one.

I doubt very much whether there is one other than maybe a generic one they force all their employees to sign, but I doubt it would apply.

[ICRockets]

Re: When you discuss deflatgate with non football fans

So, you DON'T know if there's a non-disclosure agreement.

Neither do I, nor have I read about one, so there is no reason to think that a non-disclosure agreement comes into play at all.

And you accuse OTHERS of being immune to reason and logic?

"I don't know the specific details of a locker room attendant's contract, therefore there are no specific details in his contract."

Does he not get paid if you don't know his salary, too?

[CommissarSpartacus]

Re: When you discuss deflatgate with non football fans

And you accuse OTHERS of being immune to reason and logic?

"I don't know the specific details of a locker room attendant's contract, therefore there are no specific details in his contract."

Does he not get paid if you don't know his salary, too?

Please.

A non-disclosure agreement would have a significant bearing on the issue and would be part of the discussion, IF IT WAS RELEVANT.

If you know different, then please tell us.

Otherwise, find something else to whine about.

[ICRockets]

Re: When you discuss deflatgate with non football fans

Please.

A non-disclosure agreement would have a significant bearing on the issue and would be part of the discussion, IF IT WAS RELEVANT.

If you know different, then please tell us.

Otherwise, find something else to whine about.

It might be part of the discussion if there were a discussion about McNally and Jastremski's future, but nobody with access to information seems interested in that. So instead, the only discussion I know of that concerns them is this one, with people who simply have no way of knowing the details of their contracts.

[Joe Fo Sho]

Re: When you discuss deflatgate with non football fans

McNally threatened to go to ESPN if he wasn't compensated for doing that thing that no one knows he did. I'm more inclined to believe that there was no NDA because of that threat.

[ICRockets]

Re: When you discuss deflatgate with non football fans

McNally threatened to go to ESPN if he wasn't compensated for doing that thing that no one knows he did. I'm more inclined to believe that there was no NDA because of that threat.

I didn't read that as a threat, I thought he was making a joke.

[better days]

Re: When you discuss deflatgate with non football fans

Please.

A non-disclosure agreement would have a significant bearing on the issue and would be part of the discussion, IF IT WAS RELEVANT.

If you know different, then please tell us.

Otherwise, find something else to whine about.

NOBODY can say what is in a contract unless they see the contract.

But as I said before, non-disclosure clauses are COMMON in contracts.

And you don't know that it is not there either.

[Bill Cody]

Re: When you discuss deflatgate with non football fans

I guess I don't know. Why wouldn't they be allowed to? I feel like that wouldn't be a very big deal.

Again, this would all be solved by having the refs have complete control over the footballs.

They wouldn't be allowed to because there is a protocol and that is the QB's have control over the balls up until they turn them in the morning of the game for inspection, then the balls are delivered in a bag 10 minutes before kickoff. So no, Brady would no be warming up with game balls. Here' s an article on the subject. http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/20...wpL/story.html

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2015/01/24/expert-explains-protocol-with-nfl-game-balls/fCtQ38pBjBFXId0WJC2wpL/story.html

[Bill Cody]

Re: When you discuss deflatgate with non football fans

I'm pretty sure they do. They use them all week, as I understand it.

see above post

[Strongman]

Re: When you discuss deflatgate with non football fans

I didn't read that as a threat, I thought he was making a joke.

I thought McNaly's texts indicated he was really upset at Brady AND McNally knew what he was doing was against the rules. His texts show he was pissed that Brady chastized him for missing a ball or two in the Jets game and was threatening to get even with him by over-inflating the balls.