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  • Jimkelly12203
    Registered User
    • Jun 2015
    • 3229

    Doug Whaley Sucks

    No explanation required. If you read up you'll know why. If you don't, i'm not here to educate you.

    Screw this clown.
    All Hail Josh Allen! Savior of the Buffalo Bills!

    Freedom for the Ukraine. Down with Putin and every traitor in this country that supports him.
  • MitchMurrayDowntown
    Skoobasaurus-Rex
    • Oct 2011
    • 22284

    #2
    Re: Doug Whaley Sucks

    Deep.

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    • Topas
      German smartass
      • Feb 2014
      • 880

      #3
      Re: Doug Whaley Sucks

      Well, that is a very informative post, JK, thanks for the info

      But maybe to have an actual discussion.

      I think Whaley does not suck. Overall.

      Negative:
      - cutting Freddy (also you can defend the step football and injury probability-wise)
      - trading up for Sammy (also you can defend the step if you consider (hopefully soon to be) top-5 receiver worth two firsts and there was no QB available the next year anyway)

      positive:
      - best roster in maybe 20 years (yes QB is the most important position, but it is better to have all other pieces in place than to have no piece in place, which was true the last decade; and maybe we found our QB)

      So actually the positive trumps the negative in my book. He is the best GM we had in years.
      But I definitely dont like the rumours and the handling of the Freddy situation. And if we go in the first game with Karlos starting I might reconsider my assessment.

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      • YardRat
        Well, lookie here...
        • Dec 2004
        • 86161

        #4
        Re: Doug Whaley Sucks

        Welcome to new ownership, deep pockets and culture change. People wanted something different, well they got it. Whether or not the results are any different remain to be seen.
        YardRat Wall of Fame
        #56 DARRYL TALLEY
        #29 DERRICK BURROUGHS#22 FRED JACKSON #95 KYLE WILLIAMS

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        • HHURRICANE
          Registered User
          • Mar 2005
          • 15490

          #5
          Re: Doug Whaley Sucks

          Is there something new out there?

          Whaley cut Fred and Fred was mad about it.

          Ohhh and the Eagles traded McCoy because he was talented and black.

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          • ParanoidAndroid
            My battery is low and it's getting dark.
            • Apr 2004
            • 16838

            #6
            Re: Doug Whaley Sucks

            Originally posted by Topas View Post
            Well, that is a very informative post, JK, thanks for the info

            But maybe to have an actual discussion.

            I think Whaley does not suck. Overall.

            Negative:
            - cutting Freddy (also you can defend the step football and injury probability-wise)
            - trading up for Sammy (also you can defend the step if you consider (hopefully soon to be) top-5 receiver worth two firsts and there was no QB available the next year anyway)

            positive:
            - best roster in maybe 20 years (yes QB is the most important position, but it is better to have all other pieces in place than to have no piece in place, which was true the last decade; and maybe we found our QB)

            So actually the positive trumps the negative in my book. He is the best GM we had in years.
            But I definitely dont like the rumours and the handling of the Freddy situation. And if we go in the first game with Karlos starting I might reconsider my assessment.
            The 2003 roster was the last truly solid one since the Super bowl years. We were an O-line away from being a playoff favorite. That defense was better than this one. This is the best roster we've had since then.

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            • GreedoII
              Registered User
              • Aug 2007
              • 1301

              #7
              Re: Doug Whaley Sucks

              Originally posted by Jimkelly12203 View Post
              No explanation required. If you read up you'll know why. If you don't, i'm not here to educate you.

              Screw this clown.
              why does he suck? because he didn't consult with your dumbass before you bought that F-Jax throwback? Dope....

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              • Topas
                German smartass
                • Feb 2014
                • 880

                #8
                Re: Doug Whaley Sucks

                Right, I forgot about that awesome defense. Statistically the 2004 team performed even better. So I would argue for that roster. Although I don't remember the personnel changes between 2003 and 2004. Might also be that the improvement was due to the change from Williams to Mularkey.

                Wikipedia says this about the 2004 Bills:

                According to Football Outsiders, who has tracked every play in the NFL since the early 1990s, the 2004 Bills are statistically the best NFL team (in their record-keeping history) to have failed to qualify for the playoffs.


                Another very sad record that is ours...

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                • djjimkelly
                  Registered User
                  • Apr 2003
                  • 7045

                  #9
                  Re: Doug Whaley Sucks

                  i disagree with the whaley comments he cant be a hero for signing and drafting alot of guys on this roster and a ***** because he got rid of a 34 year old back

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                  • WagonCircler
                    Escaped Convict
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 5876

                    #10
                    Re: Doug Whaley Sucks

                    Originally posted by HHURRICANE View Post
                    Ohhh and the Eagles traded McCoy because he was talented and black.
                    Or maybe they knew something about him medically...

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                    • Typ0
                      honey pie
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 32593

                      #11
                      Re: Doug Whaley Sucks

                      Originally posted by djjimkelly View Post
                      i disagree with the whaley comments he cant be a hero for signing and drafting alot of guys on this roster and a ***** because he got rid of a 34 year old back
                      I agree. I think the organization envisioned Cassell starting here and that puts FJAX on the field in pass protection a lot. They were surprised that TMOBILE emerged and EJ has grown. A whole new ball game when those two guys look like they can play FJAX falls down the depth chart. If he wants to play they did him a favor by cutting him...and they did the team that picks him up a favor too.

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                      • The King
                        Without me it's just Awe so
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 42380

                        #12
                        Re: Doug Whaley Sucks

                        Originally posted by Topas View Post
                        Right, I forgot about that awesome defense. Statistically the 2004 team performed even better. So I would argue for that roster. Although I don't remember the personnel changes between 2003 and 2004. Might also be that the improvement was due to the change from Williams to Mularkey.

                        Wikipedia says this about the 2004 Bills:





                        Another very sad record that is ours...
                        Ugh that season.
                        I remember that one fateful day when Coach took me aside. I knew what was coming. "You don't have to tell me," I said. "I'm off the team, aren't I?"
                        "Well," said Coach, "you never were really ON the team. You made that uniform you're wearing out of rags and towels, and your helmet is a toy space helmet.
                        You show up at practice and then either steal the ball and make us chase you to get it back, or you try to tackle people at inappropriate times."
                        It was all
                        true what he was saying. And yet, I thought something is brewing inside the head of this Coach.
                        He sees something in me, some kind of raw talent that he can
                        mold. But that's when I felt the handcuffs go on.


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                        • Mike
                          Registered User
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 3805

                          #13
                          Re: Doug Whaley Sucks

                          Positives:
                          - best overall roster in last decade
                          - good cap management
                          - resigning right players & letting wrong ones walk.

                          Negatives:
                          - Trading up for Sammy in deepest WR draft ever
                          - QB: waiting until worst QB draft to drafting EJ & then passing on better prospects.
                          - Overvaluing RB position & McCoy. Murray was better & has less mileage.




                          - - - Updated - - -

                          Totally mishandled FJ

                          Overall, he's been a good but not great GM
                          Please Make Sense

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                          • HHURRICANE
                            Registered User
                            • Mar 2005
                            • 15490

                            #14
                            Re: Doug Whaley Sucks

                            Originally posted by Typ0 View Post
                            I agree. I think the organization envisioned Cassell starting here and that puts FJAX on the field in pass protection a lot. They were surprised that TMOBILE emerged and EJ has grown. A whole new ball game when those two guys look like they can play FJAX falls down the depth chart. If he wants to play they did him a favor by cutting him...and they did the team that picks him up a favor too.
                            Good insight!! I didn't think of this.

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                            • justasportsfan
                              Registered User
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 71579

                              #15
                              Re: Doug Whaley Sucks

                              I like what Whaley has done for the most part all that means nothing if we don't win. All the good moves depend on how good we are which is actually tied to the qb position. If we can't win because of bad quarterbacking, it's his fault. Thats all on him.
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