Whaley is feeling the heat

[feldspar]

Re: Whaley is feeling the heat

Nah, I don't want to cause you stress by you actually thinking.

Just ignore my posts and continue on your merry happy little way towards just being happy there still is a team in Buffalo.

Winning professional sports championships is for other much better cities and fan bases like Cleveland.

Just enjoy the ride that will soon approach 20 years.

Lol...very nice.

You got Whaley getting fired next year after Rex throws him under the bus...and so on, and so forth. I don't give a **** who wants to have a negative outlook, but your particular roadmap that you want to state as fact is ridiculous.

[Guest]

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Lol...very nice.

You got Whaley getting fired next year after Rex throws him under the bus...and so on, and so forth. I don't give a **** who wants to have a negative outlook, but your particular roadmap that you want to state as fact is ridiculous.

OK.

No problem.

[trapezeus]

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terry pegula wasn't a land acquirer and got lucky off the fracking that ensued...he was one of the guys that developed fracking. he is a smart guy. its true that his ownership of sports teams have not been successful so far, but the sabres are on the right path. terry seems like an old school kind of business man. he gives people a shot to do it their way. the bills seem to be a huge mess and Brandon is largely the roadblock to any future success. the best thing for the bills is to have a tire fire season and get rex and russ out and let them build a team around people who care about winning.

[swiper]

Re: Whaley is feeling the heat

terry pegula wasn't a land acquirer and got lucky off the fracking that ensued...he was one of the guys that developed fracking. he is a smart guy. its true that his ownership of sports teams have not been successful so far, but the sabres are on the right path. terry seems like an old school kind of business man. he gives people a shot to do it their way. the bills seem to be a huge mess and Brandon is largely the roadblock to any future success. the best thing for the bills is to have a tire fire season and get rex and russ out and let them build a team around people who care about winning.

Pegula's on record as loving Brandon. Loved him so much he turned over running the Sabres to him in addition to the Bills. That doesn't make him too smart in my book.

[Guest]

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Pegula's on record as loving Brandon. Loved him so much he turned over running the Sabres to him in addition to the Bills. That doesn't make him too smart in my book.

There are book smarts and street smarts.

Pegula has neither.

He has frackin' land rights acquisition smarts.

Not particularly useful when owning a people based business like professional football.

[swiper]

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There are book smarts and street smarts.

Pegula has neither.

He has frackin' land rights acquisition smarts.

Not particularly useful when owning a people based business like professional football.

Exactly. Everybody turned a blind eye to the possibility of this problem when he came in on his white horse and saved the franchise from the likes of Trump and Bon Jovi.

We're seeing the problem with the disparity between "Fracking smarts" and "sports ownership smarts" in spades now.

[Skooby]

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Kraft is about the only person with sports ownership smarts, problem for him is it includes cheating. So basically, the owners are just lucky and catch breaks here and there.

[Joe Fo Sho]

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It's interesting to see people call a billionaire an idiot while they probably have to ask their boss if they want Friday off.

[Night Train]

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It's interesting to see people call a billionaire an idiot while they probably have to ask their boss if they want Friday off.

I'm glad someone else sees the irony.

[Mace]

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Pegula's on record as loving Brandon. Loved him so much he turned over running the Sabres to him in addition to the Bills. That doesn't make him too smart in my book.

I can agree with this. I'm not happy about Brandon, but...

I'm not giving up on Pegula so quick though. In terms of business, lot of businessmen make a billion, lose 2 billion, end up overreaching like Rigas, hitting a stasis like Rich, never diversify much like Golisano, flail around like Trump.

Pegula jumped in to the Buffalo pool with enthusiasm, perhaps learned harshly with the Sabres, before finding a gem (imho) in Tim Murray as GM. Bylsma, I dunno, but he gets another year of my patience with a young roster. Pegula perhaps learned harshly again with Rex (I sure think he did), and maybe has learned to take Brandon with a grain of salt from it, no telling yet.

But like with anything, you can overreach with enthusiasm until it evens out with knowledge learned from painful experience. Kraft for example inherited Parcells. His first real coach choice was Carroll, team declined for 3 years before he hit on Belichick.

Pegula has not been complacent, Harbor Center is a dynamic type of progress, as was his deal with MSG network. His business interests are expanding and diversifying toward sports, and he's already said the family is in this for the long haul, even if he dies, then over to Kim who seems to take it seriously, They seem genuinely happy and content to be involved with Buffalo and Buffalo sports as an integral part of their future business direction.

Feelings don't mean crap, you can't qualify them, but I'll say that to me it feels like a slow, steady focused change in direction and perspective. Proof will of course be in the pudding, and I wish Brandon kept to his field, but I just can't write the Pegulas off this quick. Ownership learning curve.

It's easy to get impatient and annoyed because we've been waiting now for so damn long, but the clock on their potential only recently started ticking.

[Mace]

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It's interesting to see people call a billionaire an idiot while they probably have to ask their boss if they want Friday off.

I get your point in this case, but I have no problem whatever calling Trump an idiot. He's a rich idiot, but still an idiot. Some idiots have more money. some idiots run faster, some idiots drive better, some idiots know more about certain things, but they're still idiots in more things than they aren't. Best trait is knowing what you don't know, to keep from being an idiot.

[Guest]

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It's interesting to see people call a billionaire an idiot while they probably have to ask their boss if they want Friday off.

Yeah you are a hero.

Unless I am looking in the mirror, I am asking no one.

[Guest]

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I'm glad someone else sees the irony.

The blind see very little.

[Historian]

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There are book smarts and street smarts.

Pegula has neither.

He has frackin' land rights acquisition smarts.

Not particularly useful when owning a people based business like professional football.

I think he's an astute businessman, I really do. He has gotten a lot done downtown, after 40 years of politics and gridlock, so I don't think brains are the problem.

I think his problem is that he's a terrible communicator, meaning, he trips over words, sometimes stutters, and is basically a shy person.

I believe that's why he employs the opposite....people who can schmooze, (Kim) people who can sell, (Brandon) and people who can communicate/BS better. (Rex)

I think its that simple.

I just hope that someone, either he or Kim, at some point, take a hard look at the Administrative structure of the Bills, and realize that most of Ralph's 'yes-men' need to be shown the door.

[Joe Fo Sho]

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I get your point in this case, but I have no problem whatever calling Trump an idiot. He's a rich idiot, but still an idiot. Some idiots have more money. some idiots run faster, some idiots drive better, some idiots know more about certain things, but they're still idiots in more things than they aren't. Best trait is knowing what you don't know, to keep from being an idiot.

Yeah, you can certainly call Trump an idiot when it comes to certain things, just like you can say that Pegula hasn't made the best football decisions during the year and a half he's owned the Bills. However, to say that Trump has neither book nor street smarts is just foolish.