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Sabres acquire rights to Vesey for 3rd Rounder in 2016
Exactly... And him being relatively older only adds to what you've said.
Exactly nothing. He couldn't be more wrong. A kid plays hockey his whole life for the hopes he gets one chance to play for his favorite team. IF, IF he gets that chance he seizes upon it. You clowns have to get over this incorrect notion that Terry Pegula is the only onel that can pay Vesey the money he wants.
Exactly nothing. He couldn't be more wrong. A kid plays hockey his whole life for the hopes he gets one chance to play for his favorite team. IF, IF he gets that chance he seizes upon it. You clowns have to get over this incorrect notion that Terry Pegula is the only onel that can pay Vesey the money he wants.
Please quote the post that somebody here said that
Or if it's multiple posts please point those out.
Unless, of course, you are the clown making **** up.
Exactly nothing. He couldn't be more wrong. A kid plays hockey his whole life for the hopes he gets one chance to play for his favorite team. IF, IF he gets that chance he seizes upon it. You clowns have to get over this incorrect notion that Terry Pegula is the only onel that can pay Vesey the money he wants.
I don't think anyone believes that.
What the sabres can offer vesey is a spot on a very young team that is about to become one of the better teams in the conference. Vesey can step right in and accelerate that. If the allure of playing for the home team is too much, so be it. Or playing for Toronto where he has family ties.
It's not the end of the world of he doesn't sign. Buffalo is still tending up and boston is still trending down.
Re: Sabres acquire rights to Vesey for 3rd Rounder in 2016
Taking all of this information, speculation and inborn Buffalo pessimism into account, while bracing myself for the inevitable disappointment, there's just one thing that doesn't make sense to me, and that I can't ignore.
The Eichel factor.
Not so much that they'd be great line mates or that it would be a comfort for Vesey to walk into a locker room with a familiar face.
The thing that keeps me from completely shutting down all hope is the idea of Murray doing this without any kind of heads-up from either Eichel or his (also Vesey's) agent.
That's the part of this that makes no sense to me.
Whether it's a 30 second phone message that goes something like "Jack....it's Tim Murray. Is your buddy Jimmy dead set on playing for his hometown team, or should I make a run at him? Call me back." or a text from Eichel to Murray "TM, it's Jack. If u go after Vesey, he'll sign."
I just find it hard to believe that something like this didn't happen in advance.
I'm 99% sure he'll be a Bruin. But I just can't close the book.
Re: Sabres acquire rights to Vesey for 3rd Rounder in 2016
my post was 176. and swiper is assuming that kids just want to play for their hometown team. that's what fans want.
kids who are groomed to play professional hockey have worn a lot of jerseys and have gotten over the fan aspect of it. I think they respect the NHL team they rooted for. but if he is immature and just wants to play for his hometown team, his advisors should be tipping off the fact that money is equal at all the team with his entry level contract.
he needs to put himself in a situation where he can make money at RFA time or Unrestrictred FA time. Being in boston at this time is a gamble. perhaps he wants to take that. but Toronto, buffalo and Chicago has more star power, more chance to be viewed as a key cog and more likely to get a bigger payout than a team that listlessly seems to be moving along. his stats should look better on the other 3 teams.
my post was 176. and swiper is assuming that kids just want to play for their hometown team. that's what fans want.
kids who are groomed to play professional hockey have worn a lot of jerseys and have gotten over the fan aspect of it. I think they respect the NHL team they rooted for. but if he is immature and just wants to play for his hometown team, his advisors should be tipping off the fact that money is equal at all the team with his entry level contract.
he needs to put himself in a situation where he can make money at RFA time or Unrestrictred FA time. Being in boston at this time is a gamble. perhaps he wants to take that. but Toronto, buffalo and Chicago has more star power, more chance to be viewed as a key cog and more likely to get a bigger payout than a team that listlessly seems to be moving along. his stats should look better on the other 3 teams.
I think both you guys are right. First off, you are exactly right that Vesey should put his homerism aside and consider what is best for his career. In that case, Boston might not be the best choice. In fact, I'm not sure what the best choice would be. Which of these teams if any will be still ascendant or with whom will he strike the best stats by the time his entry-level contract runs out or when he becomes UFA? It's hard to tell. Will he be able to consider his options objectively? That would be a tall order for anyone much less a 23-year-old with stars and dollar signs in his eyes.
On the other hand, there is little precedent that I know of for the situation. It would be like if the Heisman Trophy winner could negotiate with any team. Would OJ have signed with the 12-2 Cowboys, the 13- Colts, or the hometown Niners who sucked but were on the rise?
And Jatm is right: the college free agent loophole must be addressed. And you can bet your bottom dollar that once it is the best player will be a Sabres fan.
Re: Sabres acquire rights to Vesey for 3rd Rounder in 2016
Some other recent collegiate free agents...
Mike Reilly, grew up in Minnesota, signed with the Wild.
Justin Schultz, grew up in BC, signed with the Oil, but then they did him a favor and sent him to the Pens.
Kevin Hayes, Boston native, signed with the Rags, plays in the same league as Vesey and Eichel over the summer.
Tyler Bozak, from Regina SK, signed with the Leafs.
Torey Krug, Michigan native, signed with the Bs.
Mike Reilly, grew up in Minnesota, signed with the Wild.
Justin Schultz, grew up in BC, signed with the Oil, but then they did him a favor and sent him to the Pens.
Kevin Hayes, Boston native, signed with the Rags, plays in the same league as Vesey and Eichel over the summer.
Tyler Bozak, from Regina SK, signed with the Leafs.
Torey Krug, Michigan native, signed with the Bs.
Schultz - Edmonton is not in British Columbia... It's in Alberta. Vancouver would be hometown team.
Hayes - Obviously the Rangers are not in Boston
Bozak - Saskatchewan would consider Edmonton or Winepeg as hometowns before Toronto
Krug - How do you consider a Michigan native calling Boston hometown.
That tells me 80% of that list signed outside of their hometown influence.
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