CB Gilmore To Play Out Final Year

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  • Swiper
    Registered User
    • Sep 2010
    • 33105

    #31
    Re: CB Gilmore To Play Out Final Year

    Originally posted by trapezeus View Post
    You have a cap on expenses. Throwing money at dbs rarely works. You have to draft dbs well and you need depth in the secondary. But you need your captains and your difference maker in the pass rush and run defense. If you do that well, pretty much any zone will bail you out.
    and then factor in random pass interference, why put $14-16mm into a guy whose most plays will be determined by the refs?
    The importance of CBs has changed starkly over recent years due to NFL rules changes.

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    • jimmifli
      Registered User
      • Nov 2006
      • 7827

      #32
      Re: CB Gilmore To Play Out Final Year

      Originally posted by stuckincincy View Post
      I wonder where the Jarius Byrd fanboys are, these days...
      Still cheering for a team that doesn't make good personnel decisions and hasn't made the playoffs since 1999.

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      • DesertFox24
        Registered User
        • Jul 2005
        • 2129

        #33
        Re: CB Gilmore To Play Out Final Year

        Here is my feeling. I love Gilmore and I think he is a good player. I got my masters degree at South Carolina so have been a fan of his since college days.

        The problem is he is not the best corner in the game. I would pay him 13 to 14 million but if he wants more than that then let him test free agency to see if he can get it or If leaving for a few extra million is worth it. The Ravens and steelers do this all the time. They have great relationship with the agents and they say look this is our offer please let us know if you are getting something else. We would like to keep you and want you to feel like you got best offer so see what best offer is and we will let you know if we can match.

        That is how we need to approach this I just do not see anyone paying Gilmore 15 or even 14 a year. I say let him test an allow us to match because we want you but we also want you to feel like you got a good deal.

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        • DesertFox24
          Registered User
          • Jul 2005
          • 2129

          #34
          Re: CB Gilmore To Play Out Final Year

          Originally posted by mdcas22 View Post
          I think you make a decent offer and if he doesn't sign let him go and draft a couple in 2017 but not in round 1, maybe round 2 and after. this way you keep the salary cap down at the position, every 4 years you have to have a rookie cb that can push for a starting position. isn't that the belicheck way?
          Heck cbs and qbs and pass rush need to be drafted every year in my humble opinion. At the min a CB and pass rusher

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          • SpikedLemonade
            • Jun 2024

            #35
            Re: CB Gilmore To Play Out Final Year

            Originally posted by Swiper View Post
            You've got to jazz it up then.

            Craptique.

            Crapolicious.

            Dandy Crap.

            Like that.

            You are correct Sir BowellTM.

            I never thought of that.

            I am knee deep in thought and you are elbow deep in ass.

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            • DesertFox24
              Registered User
              • Jul 2005
              • 2129

              #36
              Re: CB Gilmore To Play Out Final Year

              Oh and regarding Darby in 4 years I think that is another reason bills may consider letting Gilmore go. Darby may actually be better than Gilmore this year will be the determining factor in that. Also Gilmore has missed several games and availability is another aspect in getting big time money.

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              • OpIv37
                Acid Douching Asswipe
                • Sep 2002
                • 101230

                #37
                Re: CB Gilmore To Play Out Final Year

                So next year, CB will be a position of need on top of all the positions we didn't address this year and whatever new issues arise during the season.

                Our 15 year anniversary is coming up this Jan. There hasn't been a Bills playoff game since we met. I have a bad feeling I'll be posting about our 20th before I'm posting about a Bills playoff game.
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                • DesertFox24
                  Registered User
                  • Jul 2005
                  • 2129

                  #38
                  Re: CB Gilmore To Play Out Final Year

                  I would love to keep both. The cap is getting to point where we should be able to keep more good players than we lose. But then again you also get teams that pay stupid money and is messes it up for everyone else.

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                  • DesertFox24
                    Registered User
                    • Jul 2005
                    • 2129

                    #39
                    Re: CB Gilmore To Play Out Final Year

                    Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                    So next year, CB will be a position of need on top of all the positions we didn't address this year and whatever new issues arise during the season.

                    Our 15 year anniversary is coming up this Jan. There hasn't been a Bills playoff game since we met. I have a bad feeling I'll be posting about our 20th before I'm posting about a Bills playoff game.
                    Well I know your mantra is doom and gloom but at some point the team has to be let guys go.

                    Let's say tyrod plays like a franchise guy and we pay him and have the option of paying Gilmore now and losing Sammy or letting Gilmore walk and locking up Sammy.

                    What do you do.

                    The reason we have sucked has to do with the qb position so even if tyrod sucks and we resign Gilmore it is not going to matter.

                    I want us to sign Gilmore I really do and I love the guy but he has not won us a game

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                    • stuckincincy
                      Buffalo Bills Fan
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 15084

                      #40
                      Re: CB Gilmore To Play Out Final Year

                      Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                      So next year, CB will be a position of need on top of all the positions we didn't address this year and whatever new issues arise during the season.

                      Our 15 year anniversary is coming up this Jan. There hasn't been a Bills playoff game since we met. I have a bad feeling I'll be posting about our 20th before I'm posting about a Bills playoff game.


                      Good one, Opi !!!
                      Fiat justitia ruat caelum. Noli timere. Laus Deo.

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                      • Ginger Vitis
                        Registered User
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 3451

                        #41
                        Re: CB Gilmore To Play Out Final Year

                        Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                        So next year, CB will be a position of need
                        You're anger over Gilmore leaving is a bit puzzling considering you have called Gilmore overrated and a average CB as recently as last year

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                        • Ginger Vitis
                          Registered User
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 3451

                          #42
                          Re: CB Gilmore To Play Out Final Year

                          Cant blame the Bills for not giving Gilmore the $15 million a year he was reported to be looking for... $12 to $13 million a year with $25 million guaranteed seems reasonable



                          Any bills fan who thinks Gilmore is a average CB is nuts.. PPF had him as the 10th best CB in 2015

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                          • OpIv37
                            Acid Douching Asswipe
                            • Sep 2002
                            • 101230

                            #43
                            Re: CB Gilmore To Play Out Final Year

                            Originally posted by Ginger Vitis View Post
                            You're anger over Gilmore leaving is a bit puzzling considering you have called Gilmore overrated and a average CB as recently as last year
                            The FO creating holes isn't about me. Who do we have that's equal or better? Letting a guy walk rather than overpaying him is one thing. It's actually something that this team is pretty good at. Finding a replacement that's equal or better- not so much.
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                            • trapezeus
                              Legendary Zoner
                              • Oct 2004
                              • 19525

                              #44
                              Re: CB Gilmore To Play Out Final Year

                              show me a team that has been successful with a great secondary and no rush and no big name linebackers? the bills seem to consistently findCB's in the draft.

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                              • coastal
                                Legendary Zoner
                                • Mar 2005
                                • 15513

                                #45
                                Re: CB Gilmore To Play Out Final Year

                                Why is Doug Whaley the GM?

                                because he's of no threat to Russ Brandon.

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