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How is anyone questioning whether to let Tyrod walk or not?
Do we really want to go back to starting bad QB's with the dollar and a dream plan to draft a stud?
Do we really want to pay for Tony Romo? Who lost his job to a rookie, will ask for more money that Tyrod next year, and who has never won a SB?
Do we really think Tyrod is the problem when we're a run heavy offense in a passing league, Our #1 WR has basically been out all year, we really dont have a true #2 WR on the roster, Robert Woods isn't being played where he should be (in the slot), and we've been forced to start walk-on's and #4, 5, even 6 WR's on the depth chart?
Do we really want a pocket passer with our OL? We don't have the OL of Dal or Oak
And consider this:
Tyrod currently has the 25th highest cap hit at the QB position
Next years cap hit if we pick up the option will be 20th in the league... 20th
The team, with Tyrods contract, is set to be 32 mill under in 2017 as per Spotrac at this point
For the cost to us vs. going rate, Tyrods upside, his abilities as a runner, and his deep ball this isn't a tough choice. Keep him.
And if Whaley stays (likely) and Rex stays (not as likley) he will be kept. If we have a new HC all bets are off and he could be gone. But personally, I'd rather just keep him and improve the OL and weapons. He's not our problem.
Before deciding what the Bills need to do going forward, we need to take a hard, realistic look at what we currently have.
1) Do we have a QB capable of carrying a team to the Super Bowl? No, we do not. It is impossible for a QB like Taylor to ever hoist a Lombardi Trophy, except as a backup or if paired with a defense like the Ravens of 2000.
2) Do we have a GM capable of remedying the Bills' deficiency at QB? No, we do not. Instead we have a GM whose primary focus is on a QB's physical tools, who downplays the importance of accuracy and information processing speed.
3) Do we have a GM capable of replicating the defense and running game that the Ravens of 2000 possessed? No we don't. Whaley has had some successes at non-QB positions, but not nearly enough successes to recreate the Ravens of 2000.
The Bills will not win a Super Bowl until Doug Whaley is replaced as GM, Rex Ryan as head coach, and Tyrod Taylor as QB. Romo isn't going to hoist a Lombardi Trophy either, not at this point in his career. Romo is not the answer. Allowing Doug Whaley to draft more QBs would be a case of spinning our wheels, because Whaley cannot evaluate QB talent.
The road to the Super Bowl begins with firing Doug Whaley. Until that important step is accomplished, anything this team does will constitute more of the same. Suppose that next season we keep Whaley/Rex/Tyrod, barely squeak into the playoffs, then get eliminated by a real team like Oakland or New England. What possible good could come from that? A season like that would not be a stepping stone toward a Super Bowl win. At best such a season would create the illusion of progress, thereby obfuscating this team's severe long-term deficiencies and limitations.
There will never be a rational reason for any neutral commentator to describe the Bills as a legitimate Super Bowl contender as long as Doug Whaley is GM. That being the case, a decision to keep Whaley another year is the same as a decision to consign the team to another year of Super Bowl irrelevance. If the decision to consign the team to another year of irrelevance has been made, it does not at that point matter much one way or the other whether we keep Taylor.
But...there is. There is an objective, real world, tangible difference between "OK" and "dog ****". So if you start your analysis by actively dismissing this, you undermine the efficacy of your overall assessment. And then I'm able to sit here and tell you, justifiably, that I lend zero credence to your take. So, where does that leave us? There's no conversation to be had if one party refuses to have it in reality.
The Cowboys will want to rid themselves of that contract as much as that contract scares people like you. It's not going to cost more than a 3rd to get Romo. It will totally be worth renting Romo for two-three years while the draftees this year sit and learn from him. If the Bills don't do it, Denver is going to.
It would cost nothing. Romo will be released after the season. Nobody will take on that contract.
Sure, the smartest QB ever to play can be on my team any day of the week. .
Even if he's dealing with shoulder and foot injuries that limit his ability to both throw the ball and move around in the pocket? It seems to me that the only thing a smart QB who can't run or throw can give you is a guy who doesn't turn the ball over or take sacks. Guess what Tyrod's strengths are?
Even if he's dealing with shoulder and foot injuries that limit his ability to both throw the ball and move around in the pocket? It seems to me that the only thing a smart QB who can't run or throw can give you is a guy who doesn't turn the ball over or take sacks. Guess what Tyrod's strengths are?
It's certainly not throwing the football. What a terrible thing to want...a QB whose biggest strength is his ability to throw a football.
I think we all remember some of the best seasons any QB had ever had, right? That year that Brady set a record for least amount of sacks, or when Peyton ran for 1,000 yards, or when Brees hit all of his checkdowns, or when Favre threw for 15 touchdowns, or when Elway avoided the entire middle of the field for a whole year, or when Montana set a record for lowest number of 4th quarter comebacks.
But hey, you seem to be content being a loser. More power to you.
Tyrod Taylor has basically made no progress in his second year starting, which is also his 6th year in the league...same guy we've seen from the beginning.
I don't see that changing too much next year, either.
Tyrod Taylor has basically made no progress in his second year starting, which is also his 6th year in the league...same guy we've seen from the beginning.
I don't see that changing too much next year, either.
What progress can you reasonably expect him to make when he has not played a single game with more than 1 competent and healthy receiver on the field at any given time?
What progress can you reasonably expect him to make when he has not played a single game with more than 1 competent and healthy receiver on the field at any given time?
Does it matter who the receivers are when all he does is look at 1 of them and if's not wide open, he runs around?
And even if someone is wide open, it doesn't even mean he'll throw a catchable ball to the receiver as this year almost every throw of his has sailed.
Does it matter who the receivers are if they go into the middle of the field because Tyrod refuses to look at, or simply can't see, the middle?
-Got to have a QB who can march his team downfield with his arm when needed. Taylor can't.
-Got a QB coach named David Lee, Wildcat Lee. Note his use of Wildcat and Read Option, designed QB running plays. This is their desired offense. Tony Romo, oft injured 38 year old pocket passer ? No.
-We've all noticed how settling for "okay" goes in life, we've all settled for "ok", then regretted it because the decision never really met our needs like extending ourselves for a better option would have. Once stuck with payments, you're stuck with that ok you settled for, and try to rationalize it, always knowing you needed better. You see people "settle for ok" in relationships, then you see the results.
If they renegotiate Taylor's contract, and I see the possibility mentioned in the media, maybe ok is adequate year by year as they try other options. He's a quality backup QB.
But they still need someone who can rally the team with his arm and march them downfield quickly and decisively if they want to get away from perpetual 8-8. That's not Taylor.
You see rookies able to do this. Taylor can't. We need better.
What progress can you reasonably expect him to make when he has not played a single game with more than 1 competent and healthy receiver on the field at any given time?
This thread has been really eye-opening. I was so wrong at the beginning, and now I've seen the light. All the name-calling really convinced me that you're great people who deserve happiness.
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