Now, can we PLEASE stop all the LOSER talk?!

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  • paladin warrior
    All-Pro Zoner
    • Oct 2004
    • 3272

    #31
    Re: Now, can we PLEASE stop all the LOSER talk?!

    This year . Bill's will be 8 win 9 lost no playoff this year and no MVP dreaming not true Josh Allen . With too many Int .

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    • sukie
      Seriously?
      • Sep 2012
      • 21514

      #32
      Re: Now, can we PLEASE stop all the LOSER talk?!

      Originally posted by Mr. Pink View Post
      Just run some deep posts, the Browns seem to let guys just run uncovered deep down the middle of the field.
      2 high has killed it. Dorsey can’t beat 2 high now.

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      • OpIv37
        Acid Douching Asswipe
        • Sep 2002
        • 101261

        #33
        Re: Now, can we PLEASE stop all the LOSER talk?!

        Originally posted by notacon View Post
        Except when they do win close games. Like against the two division leaders KC and Baltimore, both on the road.


        When you say we “Can’t” win close games, that is false and unrealistic.
        Well, if you actually watched the game, you would have seen the graphics they put up. Since the start of the 2021 season, the Bills are 16-1 in games decided by 8 or more, and 2-8 in games decided by 8 or less, now 2-9.

        Those are the actual results with the current coaches and players.
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        • sukie
          Seriously?
          • Sep 2012
          • 21514

          #34
          Re: Now, can we PLEASE stop all the LOSER talk?!

          Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
          Well, if you actually watched the game, you would have seen the graphics they put up. Since the start of the 2021 season, the Bills are 16-1 in games decided by 8 or more, and 2-8 in games decided by 8 or less, now 2-9.

          Those are the actual results with the current coaches and players.
          When you collapse a 27-10 lead naturally it becomes a close game but this one deserves its own category

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          • notacon
            Registered User
            • Aug 2012
            • 33026

            #35
            Re: Now, can we PLEASE stop all the LOSER talk?!

            Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
            Well, if you actually watched the game, you would have seen the graphics they put up. Since the start of the 2021 season, the Bills are 16-1 in games decided by 8 or more, and 2-8 in games decided by 8 or less, now 2-9.

            Those are the actual results with the current coaches and players.
            I did watch that game.


            The FACT is that the Bill have won two close games THIS year, against very good teams, division leaders, on the road.

            To make the statement that they “Can’t” win close games FALSE. You do know what the word “Can’t” means, don’t you???

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            • notacon
              Registered User
              • Aug 2012
              • 33026

              #36
              Re: Now, can we PLEASE stop all the LOSER talk?!

              Most teams, when they have good record, have marginal fans jumping on the bandwagon.

              Buffalo has the opposite effect. When they suffer a bad loss, so many “fans”, that we hardly see posting here very much (I can names if you wish), rush in to form the Crap Cart. So toxic.....so emotional....zero perspective or objectivity.

              Too much whining piss and vinegar. Boring and insufferable.

              Objective observers, who’s profession is to follow and get paid for offering their unbiased opinions do not offer up the same vitriol nonsense.

              This is what several are saying....

              From The Athletic (owned by NY Times), with three of their writers (none Joe. B. who is also a very objective, intelligent, knowledgable unbiased NFL observer) Jeff Howe, Kalyn Kahler & Ted Nguyen with their weekly “takeaways”.

              NFL Week 10 takeaways: Vikings now a Super Bowl contender? Panic time for Bills?


              The Bills lost at home in overtime in stunning fashion to the Vikings. Is it panic time in Buffalo after two straight defeats? And time to take Minnesota seriously as a Super Bowl contender?


              Howe: No reason to panic in Buffalo. As long as they’re healthy — Josh Allen, in particular — the Bills are capable of beating anyone in the playoffs. As for the Vikings, they were taking advantage of a softer schedule, so this was a big-time signature moment for Kevin O’Connell and his team. They now belong in the conversation with the Eagles, Cowboys and 49ers as the best teams in the NFC. Each is good, and each has flaws and something to prove in the playoffs. That conference is still wide-open, so the Vikings should absolutely feel like they have a shot.

              Kahler: The Bills will be just fine. I do think it’s time to take the Vikings seriously, as this was their moment to prove they belong in the Super Bowl conversation and they did it, with the help of a lucky fumble. Justin Jefferson’s one-handed, 32-yard catch on fourth-and-18 was one of the wildest, most impressive receptions I’ve ever seen. And that drive ended on one of the worst QB sneaks I have ever seen. Kirk Cousins barely moved. But that fourth-quarter drive is a good way to sum up the Vikings’ up-and-down play. As the season goes on, we’re seeing that it’s more up than down, and at 8-1, this team is a serious threat.

              Nguyen: This was a really odd game. The Vikings were down 24-10 and came back, yet the Bills still had the ball up four with 49 seconds left in regulation. Allen fumbled the ball at the goal line, which was recovered for a Vikings touchdown. Then a Bills field goal sent it to overtime.
              This game was an accurate representation of the Vikings’ season. It wasn’t a clean performance you feel great about or expect to be sustainable, but in the end, they won like they have all season. But yes, the Vikings are capable of beating anyone. They just beat one of the best teams in the league on the road. But I’m still not sure they are in the same class as the Eagles and Cowboys, despite their record.

              The Bills shouldn’t be panicking. Allen isn’t typically as careless with the ball as he was in this game. And in the playoffs, they’ll pull out a deadly trump card: using him in the designed run game.
              Josh Allen fumbles the snap at his own goal line. Snaps that he has done hundred of times without incident. **** happens. To even THINK this loss shows all the negative baloney being bantered around is just plain dumb. Overreaction on overdrive!!!!


              More....from CBS Sports Jeff Kerr...his weekly “overreactions and realty checks....

              NFL Week 10 overreactions and reality checks: Can Kirk Cousins reach the Super Bowl? Is Josh Allen regressing?

              Let's determine which Week 10 takeaways are overreactions and which are reality




              Kirk Cousins can lead the Vikings to a Super Bowl

              Overreaction or reality: Overreaction

              The Vikings are a Super Bowl contender and one of the best teams in the league, yet it's fair to question if Cousins can get them to Glendale, Arizona for Super Bowl LVII. Cousins finished 30 of 50 for 357 yards with one touchdown and two interception in the crucial win over the Bills, but failed to win the game on his own merit.
              Cousins was bailed out of a failed fourth-and-goal quarterback sneak where he didn't get in, thanks to a Bills fumble at their own 1-yard line on the very next play. The fumble led to a touchdown and gave Minnesota the lead. After the Vikings got the ball first in overtime, Cousins had an opportunity to win the game with a first-and-goal at the Bills' 2-yard line with a touchdown. Instead, he was sacked for a 10-yard loss and threw an incomplete pass -- leading to a field goal and giving Buffalo an opportunity to win the game.


              Josh Allen has regressed this season

              Overreaction or reality: Overreaction

              Allen isn't in his best stretch of football right now. In his last three games, Allen has seven giveaways with six interceptions -- three in the red zone. In his first six games, Allen had just four interceptions and six giveaways.
              Allen has completed 58.8% of his passes for 753 yards with three touchdowns to six interceptions over his last three games (67.2 rating). The Bills are 1-2 in those starts, relying on Allen's play to bail them out of trouble.

              Leading the league with 10 interceptions and having 13 giveaways, Allen isn't his typical MVP self. While this is a bad stretch of football, the Bills quarterback hasn't regressed. It's too short of a stretch to make that declaration.


              Yep. Level headed experts and professionals provide level headed professional observations.

              Losers engage in LOSER TALK.


              Just like the announcers said early in today’s game....(paraphrasing)....

              'In Buffalo there are fans that think the sky is the limit. And there are those fans that think the sky is falling’


              I‘ll let you losers WALLOW in your own misery with ’THE SKY IS FALLING” quitter loser talk.

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              • notacon
                Registered User
                • Aug 2012
                • 33026

                #37
                Re: Now, can we PLEASE stop all the LOSER talk?!

                BTW....I’m looking forward to the Bills going on a six game (at least) winning streak.


                The Bills will be going into Cincy in week #17 with a 12-3 record.

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                • sukie
                  Seriously?
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 21514

                  #38
                  Re: Now, can we PLEASE stop all the LOSER talk?!

                  Yet another panel of experts and none looking at the play calling.

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                  • OpIv37
                    Acid Douching Asswipe
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 101261

                    #39
                    Re: Now, can we PLEASE stop all the LOSER talk?!

                    Originally posted by notacon View Post
                    I did watch that game.


                    The FACT is that the Bill have won two close games THIS year, against very good teams, division leaders, on the road.

                    To make the statement that they “Can’t” win close games FALSE. You do know what the word “Can’t” means, don’t you???
                    You really are nit picky.

                    16-1 in blowouts. 2-9 in close games. If you don’t see the drastic difference in results, I can’t help you.
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                    • YardRat
                      Well, lookie here...
                      • Dec 2004
                      • 86207

                      #40
                      Re: Now, can we PLEASE stop all the LOSER talk?!

                      Originally posted by sahlensguy View Post
                      Outside of Allen and Diggs, the talent on O has never even been close to special.

                      Allen has always made them look better than they are.
                      I don't think that's 100 percent true. A big factor in the early games was the other guys making really good-to-incredible catches. That makes Allen look better. The last 2-3 games the other guys weren't doing that and catches became drops. They got that back a little bit today, but Davis, Knox, and even Diggs had big drops today that could have made a difference.

                      The other guys on O can't do anything when Josh is throwing int's as if the defender is a receiver on his team, or botching a simple snap in a critical part of the field and game.
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                      • Woodman
                        Legendary Zoner
                        • Apr 2014
                        • 65977

                        #41
                        Re: Now, can we PLEASE stop all the LOSER talk?!

                        Bring in Frank Reich as a QB coach pay him whatever $$$$$$$$$$ he wants.

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                        • notacon
                          Registered User
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 33026

                          #42
                          Re: Now, can we PLEASE stop all the LOSER talk?!

                          Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                          You really are nit picky.

                          16-1 in blowouts. 2-9 in close games. If you don’t see the drastic difference in results, I can’t help you.
                          I didn’t say there was not a difference in results. Saying the Bills “can’t” win close games (certainly this year) is just plain false.

                          If you cannot realize that fact, I can't help you.

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                          • notacon
                            Registered User
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 33026

                            #43
                            Re: Now, can we PLEASE stop all the LOSER talk?!

                            Originally posted by sukie View Post
                            Yet another panel of experts and none looking at the play calling.
                            Oh please. You have no idea what the play calling is. And you have no idea what the experts are “looking at”. If they recognize bad play calling, they say so....as they have many, many, any times when appropriate.

                            There is no problem with the defensive play calling when Justin Jefferson does one of the most absurd catches on 4th down and 18, literally taking an INT out of Lewis’ hands. The exceptional effort by one of the best WR in the NFL was the difference.

                            There is no problem with calling a QB sneak on your own goal line for the win. Fumbling the snap is the difference.

                            There is no problem calling a pass into the end zone for the win in OT. Throwing an INT is the difference.


                            Yes, another panel of experts that provide intelligent, knowledgeable, objective, unbiased expert observations.....you should listen to people that know what they are talking about.
                            Last edited by notacon; 11-13-2022, 12:36 PM.

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                            • ParanoidAndroid
                              My battery is low and it's getting dark.
                              • Apr 2004
                              • 16854

                              #44
                              Re: Now, can we PLEASE stop all the LOSER talk?!

                              Originally posted by notacon View Post
                              Except when they do win close games. Like against the two division leaders KC and Baltimore, both on the road.

                              When you say we “Can’t” win close games, that is false and unrealistic.
                              True, but we do lose most of them.

                              We CAN win them if Josh stops trying to blow everyone out and McDermott takes the easy points when the momentum has been lost.

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                              • notacon
                                Registered User
                                • Aug 2012
                                • 33026

                                #45
                                Re: Now, can we PLEASE stop all the LOSER talk?!

                                Originally posted by ParanoidAndroid View Post
                                True, but we do lose most of them.

                                We CAN win them if Josh stops trying to blow everyone out and McDermott takes the easy points when the momentum has been lost.
                                I’m not going to fault McDermott for the INT that Josh threw on the 4th and 2 play. That INT was UGLY. Same with the one in OT.

                                If Josh makes the pass, McD is brilliant and went for the crushing score.


                                Plus there were MORE chances to win the game....Josh just screwed the pooch. It happens to the best QB’s in history, and will again.

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