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  • OpIv37
    Acid Douching Asswipe
    • Sep 2002
    • 101230

    Re: We got the win, but...

    Originally posted by YardRat View Post
    The difference between facts and opinions is not semantics.

    You continue to reinforce you don't know the difference.
    You're being obtuse if you think every team that makes the playoffs is a contender. Having the opportunity to contend is not the same as having the actual talent to contend with the best teams. By your definition, Marshall is a contender for the CFB playoffs because they were allowed to play games. By your definition, every team that makes the March Madness tournament is a contender to win it. You know that's not true.
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    • YardRat
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      • Dec 2004
      • 86155

      Re: We got the win, but...

      Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
      You're being obtuse if you think every team that makes the playoffs is a contender. Having the opportunity to contend is not the same as having the actual talent to contend with the best teams. By your definition, Marshall is a contender for the CFB playoffs because they were allowed to play games. By your definition, every team that makes the March Madness tournament is a contender to win it. You know that's not true.
      My opinion may be not every team can win it. The fact is they are all contenders.

      Again, you obviously don't understand the difference.
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      • Night Train
        Retired - On Several Levels
        • Jul 2005
        • 33117

        Re: We got the win, but...

        No such thing as hypothetical absolutes.

        Play the games when they come.

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        • Mace
          Haha...yeah you think so ?
          • Mar 2013
          • 20315

          Re: We got the win, but...

          Technically everyone is a contender until they are ruled out. Everyone who makes the playoffs is technically a contender.

          Contender - a person or group competing with others to achieve something.

          Feeling a team is not a contender is conjecture, until it becomes fact.

          Oh, I just parsed some semantics, I did.

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          • OpIv37
            Acid Douching Asswipe
            • Sep 2002
            • 101230

            Re: We got the win, but...

            Originally posted by YardRat View Post
            My opinion may be not every team can win it. The fact is they are all contenders.

            Again, you obviously don't understand the difference.
            You are using the word "contender" to mean any team given the opportunity to contend.

            I am using "contender" to mean actually having the talent to win it, not simply being allowed to show up.
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            • TacklingDummy
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              • Jul 2002
              • 71725

              Re: We got the win, but...

              14 teams will be contenders to win the Super Bowl.

              Op, if you know which team is going to win it can you please let us all know? Im going to put $1000. On it. Thanks.

              Everyone is 0-0 when the playoffs start. Any team can get hot like the 4th seeded Rams and Bengals did last year.

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              • OpIv37
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                • Sep 2002
                • 101230

                Re: We got the win, but...

                Originally posted by TacklingDummy View Post
                14 teams will be contenders to win the Super Bowl.

                Op, if you know which team is going to win it can you please let us all know? Im going to put $1000. On it. Thanks.

                Everyone is 0-0 when the playoffs start. Any team can get hot like the 4th seeded Rams and Bengals did last year.
                It happens but it's the exception to the rule.

                Right now, we're losing to the Jets, choking against the Vikings, and barely beating the Packers, Browns and Lions.
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                • Bill Cody
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                  • Sep 2004
                  • 11887

                  Re: We got the win, but...

                  OP how do you know what the injury situation is going to be for us in 7 weeks? Or for anyone else? You don't get to make wild claims and call them "facts". Nuh uh. You like to say you're a realist but you're making emotional arguments in this thread that are speculation at best. Sorry but they are. You have no idea what is going to happen

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                  • Typ0
                    honey pie
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 32592

                    Re: We got the win, but...

                    Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                    You're being obtuse ... Having the opportunity to contend is not the same as having the actual talent to contend with the best teams.
                    Talk about being obtuse! You said it yourself having the opportunity to contend classifies one as a contender: everything else is you pontificating. If you make the tournament you are a contender until you are beaten then you no longer are.

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                    • Typ0
                      honey pie
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 32592

                      Re: We got the win, but...

                      Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                      It happens but it's the exception to the rule.

                      Right now, we're losing to the Jets, choking against the Vikings, and barely beating the Packers, Browns and Lions.
                      At least we beat those teams. Let's get going!

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                      • OpIv37
                        Acid Douching Asswipe
                        • Sep 2002
                        • 101230

                        Re: We got the win, but...

                        Originally posted by Typ0 View Post
                        Talk about being obtuse! You said it yourself having the opportunity to contend classifies one as a contender: everything else is you pontificating. If you make the tournament you are a contender until you are beaten then you no longer are.
                        I most certainly did not say that. The Bills had the opportunity to contend during the drought. They were never close to actually being contenders.
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                        • TacklingDummy
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                          • Jul 2002
                          • 71725

                          Re: We got the win, but...

                          Originally posted by Typ0 View Post
                          At least we beat those teams. Let's get going!
                          Are the Chiefs still contenders when they lost to the Bills and won several other games ugly?

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                          • Woodman
                            Legendary Zoner
                            • Apr 2014
                            • 65900

                            Re: We got the win, but...

                            Originally posted by Typ0 View Post
                            Talk about being obtuse! You said it yourself having the opportunity to contend classifies one as a contender: everything else is you pontificating. If you make the tournament you are a contender until you are beaten then you no longer are.

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                            • Novacane
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                              • Jul 2002
                              • 42348

                              Re: We got the win, but...

                              Originally posted by TacklingDummy View Post
                              Are the Chiefs still contenders when they lost to the Bills and won several other games ugly?
                              They had to go to OT at home vs TN who was playing with no QB. Chargers blew many chances to build a lead that would have prevented a last drive win for KC. Then they struggle with the Rams who were as one dimensional with no QB as any team you'll ever see. The Opi of the Chiefs board is probably saying they have no shot if they keep playing like this.

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                              • Woodman
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                                • Apr 2014
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                                Re: We got the win, but...

                                Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                                Every year, there are some teams that make the playoffs that don't have a legit shot at winning it. But anyway, we are arguing semantics. The way this team is playing, there are multiple AFC teams that will beat us.
                                Just so wrong sorry.

                                Any team that makes the playoffs has a shot believe it or not.

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