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  • Historian
    2020-2023 AFC East Champions!
    • Dec 2002
    • 61867

    #31
    Re: Here's what I would do, if I'm Beane and company, contract wise this offseason

    Originally posted by kgun12 View Post
    Could it be Shakir? BTW Davis will be playing for a contract!
    I like him but at six foot, 190, my guess is that he moves into the 3rd role.

    We need a Waddle or Moulds type that can wrestle the ball away from DBs.

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    • Woodman
      Legendary Zoner
      • Apr 2014
      • 65984

      #32
      Re: Here's what I would do, if I'm Beane and company, contract wise this offseason

      Originally posted by kgun12 View Post
      Could it be Shakir? BTW Davis will be playing for a contract!
      This could possibly work itself out with what we have in house.

      “It breaks your heart when someone leaves and you don’t know why.”

      "It may be raining but there's a rainbow above you"


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      • Typ0
        honey pie
        • Jul 2002
        • 32593

        #33
        Re: Here's what I would do, if I'm Beane and company, contract wise this offseason

        There is a big gap between the Bills and any team who shows up to play a hard-fought physical game and follows through on doing that for four quarters. I don't care if it's the Texans all they need to do is show up with their heads in the game and punch us in the mouth and we are done. Toast.

        All we do is trade one weakness for another that gets exploited in this system that requires everything to be perfect in order to have success.

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        • Woodman
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          • Apr 2014
          • 65984

          #34
          Re: Here's what I would do, if I'm Beane and company, contract wise this offseason

          Originally posted by Historian View Post
          I like him but at six foot, 190, my guess is that he moves into the 3rd role.

          We need a Waddle or Moulds type that can wrestle the ball away from DBs.
          AJ Brown type.

          “It breaks your heart when someone leaves and you don’t know why.”

          "It may be raining but there's a rainbow above you"


          Former President Donald Trump early Thursday touted the results of a new NPR/PBSNewsHour/Marist poll showing him ahead of President Joe Biden by 8 percentage points among independents.

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          • Typ0
            honey pie
            • Jul 2002
            • 32593

            #35
            Re: Here's what I would do, if I'm Beane and company, contract wise this offseason

            Originally posted by Historian View Post
            I like him but at six foot, 190, my guess is that he moves into the 3rd role.

            We need a Waddle or Moulds type that can wrestle the ball away from DBs.
            We need that ... and another guy with real speed who can separate....then we need to get our heads so deeply far out of our asses about how we use the RBs in the passing game.

            It's not that ****ing complicated! McDermott seems to understand it in his post game/season banter all the time. It just never gets done. **** that. See ya.

            - - - Updated - - -

            We don't even use our RBs right in the running game. Why is everyone so keen on keeping these clowns around?

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            • Forward_Lateral
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              • Mar 2004
              • 29897

              #36
              Re: Here's what I would do, if I'm Beane and company, contract wise this offseason

              Originally posted by Historian View Post
              I like him but at six foot, 190, my guess is that he moves into the 3rd role.

              We need a Waddle or Moulds type that can wrestle the ball away from DBs.
              Using Knox more would be nice too.

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              • Historian
                2020-2023 AFC East Champions!
                • Dec 2002
                • 61867

                #37
                Re: Here's what I would do, if I'm Beane and company, contract wise this offseason

                Oh and one last thought on the "gap".

                I'm sorry, but it chaps my ass every time I hear something like....The Chiefs are going to their 5th straight AFCCG!!!!

                Gimme a break.

                The AFC West is a joke, and has been a one horse division since the 1970 merger. In the 70s and first half of the 80s it belonged to the Raiders, then the next 15 years belonged to Denver.

                Now it's KC's. It's easy to get to the Championship every year when you win your division in November. That's six wins right off the bat.

                As much as I hate Cincinnati, I think they're going to roll KC again, because KC is about on par with us.

                But a big part of their success is getting all these playoff games at home.

                Think of that economic boom over the years.

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                • Historian
                  2020-2023 AFC East Champions!
                  • Dec 2002
                  • 61867

                  #38
                  Re: Here's what I would do, if I'm Beane and company, contract wise this offseason

                  Originally posted by Forward_Lateral View Post
                  Using Knox more would be nice too.
                  Absolutely.

                  And remember how we won the AFL title in 1965?

                  Dubenion and Bass were both lost during the season due to injury.

                  So what does Saban do?

                  Run a two tight end offense.

                  Final score: Buffalo 23, San Diego 0.

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                  • kgun12
                    Registered User
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 11319

                    #39
                    Re: Here's what I would do, if I'm Beane and company, contract wise this offseason

                    Originally posted by Typ0 View Post
                    There is a big gap between the Bills and any team who shows up to play a hard-fought physical game and follows through on doing that for four quarters. I don't care if it's the Texans all they need to do is show up with their heads in the game and punch us in the mouth and we are done. Toast.

                    All we do is trade one weakness for another that gets exploited in this system that requires everything to be perfect in order to have success.
                    Not true are wins this year against physical teams were the Jets, Titans, Ravens and the Lions who everyone say is a smash mouth team and maybe the Chiefs game.

                    The Vikings was the only finesse team to beat us. I consider every divisional game physical.
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                    • sukie
                      Seriously?
                      • Sep 2012
                      • 21522

                      #40
                      Re: Here's what I would do, if I'm Beane and company, contract wise this offseason

                      How is KC not in cap trouble? Kelce volunteering? To say there can be no improvement with restructuring and or cutting players (eating any dead money if it frees up space.

                      changes will be made. If KC can continue to do it so can Buffalo.

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                      • kingJofNYC
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                        • Sep 2009
                        • 5960

                        #41
                        Re: Here's what I would do, if I'm Beane and company, contract wise this offseason

                        Originally posted by sukie View Post
                        How is KC not in cap trouble? Kelce volunteering? To say there can be no improvement with restructuring and or cutting players (eating any dead money if it frees up space.

                        changes will be made. If KC can continue to do it so can Buffalo.
                        Outside of Frank/Reid/Jones they don't spend much on D. I mean Poyer and Hyde were so cheap that we basically had both for the price of Reid, but we are paying Von/Tre/Milano, and Taron is making more than any Chiefs CB.....

                        They passed on signing Hill, and it's going to free up a lot of space, while we extended Diggs.
                        Last edited by kingJofNYC; 01-24-2023, 12:47 PM.

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                        • sukie
                          Seriously?
                          • Sep 2012
                          • 21522

                          #42
                          Re: Here's what I would do, if I'm Beane and company, contract wise this offseason

                          Kelce wipes out Diggs. I do feel that Poyer and Hyde are gone. Milano makes plays. Positive plays.

                          it’s gonna be interesting

                          Hill wanted and got a boatload. There will be a lot of rookie contracts and prove it contracts. Just can’t get attached to players because to have a Josh… Piper needs to be paid somewhere.

                          don’t need lock down guys if you can generate a rush. Don’t need expensive backs if you can generate a rush block.

                          fix lines… not overhaul just fix and build from there.

                          competent offensive play calling and scheme makes stars

                          Florio spoke of it on Twitter

                          Bills had 2 guys that could break it deep and a bunch of slot guys yet they played deep ball all the time. No salary cap space fixes that.
                          Last edited by sukie; 01-24-2023, 12:51 PM.

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                          • kingJofNYC
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                            • Sep 2009
                            • 5960

                            #43
                            Re: Here's what I would do, if I'm Beane and company, contract wise this offseason

                            Bengals are coming due too. Have to resign Higgins, Logan Wilson is going to want money, and some others. Listen, you guys get too tight when OpIv talks about windows. He's right in the following, our window with cheap contracts is kind of shut. We had guys like Edmunds/Milano/Oliver/Taron/Allen/Knox/Davis all on cheap deals, that pretty much is done and over with. Bengals still have cheap deals, but that will close up soon too. Have to restock in the draft, and that's why I've been up Beane's ass, he's missed way too much the last 4 years and we don't have cheap players that contribute.

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                            • OpIv37
                              Acid Douching Asswipe
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 101288

                              #44
                              Re: Here's what I would do, if I'm Beane and company, contract wise this offseason

                              Originally posted by kingJofNYC View Post
                              Bengals are coming due too. Have to resign Higgins, Logan Wilson is going to want money, and some others. Listen, you guys get too tight when OpIv talks about windows. He's right in the following, our window with cheap contracts is kind of shut. We had guys like Edmunds/Milano/Oliver/Taron/Allen/Knox/Davis all on cheap deals, that pretty much is done and over with. Bengals still have cheap deals, but that will close up soon too. Have to restock in the draft, and that's why I've been up Beane's ass, he's missed way too much the last 4 years and we don't have cheap players that contribute.
                              The other thing that sucks is that there's so much that can go wrong. Allen could get hurt. The whole OL could get injured like all the DB's did this year. Miami could have a great off-season and take the div from us. Look what happened to the last two SB winners. TB only made the playoffs because they were in a weak division, and they lost in the first round. The Rams completely fell apart and didn't even make the playoffs after winning the SB last year.

                              Now, I'm NOT saying that any of those bad things will happen, or that the Bills will regress because the Bucs and Rams did. I'm just saying that having Josh and a bunch of other good players doesn't guarantee us another legit shot at a title.
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                              • notacon
                                Registered User
                                • Aug 2012
                                • 33042

                                #45
                                Re: Here's what I would do, if I'm Beane and company, contract wise this offseason

                                Originally posted by Lexwhat View Post
                                To be fair - Cincy hit the lotto (credit to them) for getting Burrow, Chase, and a few other playmakers still on their rookie deals. Their time to pay their mortgages is coming very soon.

                                Yes, our window is now tighter, but the team needs a new direction and a roster / coaching makeover. Unless the Bills are status quo next year, they are every bit in contention as long as we have Josh Allen.
                                Yeah....they got them because they were worst team in the NFL n 2019....dead last with a dismal 2-14 record, and 4th worst team in the NFL in 2020, with another dismal record of 4-11-1.

                                We like to bemoan how “terrible” the Bills were during the drought, but they were NOT even close to that bad as Cincy was those two seasons.

                                In FACT, the last time the Bills had such a dismal multi-year record was 1984 to 1986. 2-14, 2-14 & 4-12.

                                Of course that fueled their rise to a 4-time AFC Champion with advantageous draft picks.

                                And today, having high draft picks is even more critical than it was in the 80’s, because of the cap, and virtually dictated rookie contracts depending on draft placement and playoff position. There are NO holdouts of draft picks anymore.


                                Certainly not like the debacle of Jim Kelly by crappy owner Ralph Wilson.....cheapskate bastard!!! Who was more interested in bean counting than building a professional organization and a consistent contender.

                                The Bills ****ed up the drafting of Jim Kelly in 1983, by refusing to sign him (that is a non-issue in today’s NFL) and had him waste his first three years of his career in the USFL. They also wasted their first pick of that draft on Tony Hunter, BUST TE (Hunter was #12 overall, Kelly #14)

                                It takes more skill to field a perennial contender after the rookie contracts are over, especially for a franchise QB, but is not even close to impossible (no matter that Opi says), and we are about to find out if Beane has that skill.

                                I suspect he does, and then some.

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