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  • Goobylal
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    • Jan 2004
    • 19366

    #16
    Re: kgun's "Where do we go?"....Safety

    Benford will take Poyer's place, unless they can get Poyer to agree to a reasonable 1-year deal.

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    • ghz in pittsburgh
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      • Aug 2004
      • 5861

      #17
      Re: kgun's "Where do we go?"....Safety

      The Bills are a team can't afford to pay premium price for more than 1 player at each position. Safety is Hyde. CB is White. LB is Milano. DE has Miller. Maybe a DT this offseason. I don't see them paying another Safety at the same level as Hyde.

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      • kgun12
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        • Jul 2002
        • 11315

        #18
        Re: kgun's "Where do we go?"....Safety

        Hopefully they can find the next Poyer in FA at a decent price like Poyers was.
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        • Mace
          Haha...yeah you think so ?
          • Mar 2013
          • 20314

          #19
          Re: kgun's "Where do we go?"....Safety

          Listing of 2023 safety fa's.....won't pretend I can fish through it for gems with any degree of competence.

          Tracking the status and signings of all NFL free agents.

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          • kgun12
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            • Jul 2002
            • 11315

            #20
            Re: kgun's "Where do we go?"....Safety

            Originally posted by Mace View Post
            Listing of 2023 safety fa's.....won't pretend I can fish through it for gems with any degree of competence.

            https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/safety/
            Me neither, but our new Poyer is on that list.

            Philly won’t let him go, he would be good Chauncey Gardner-Johnson!
            Last edited by kgun12; 02-08-2023, 07:17 PM.
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            • Mace
              Haha...yeah you think so ?
              • Mar 2013
              • 20314

              #21
              Re: kgun's "Where do we go?"....Safety

              Originally posted by kgun12 View Post
              Me neither, but our new Poyer is on that list.

              Philly won’t let him go, he would be good Chauncey Gardner-Johnson!
              Owens from Houston stood out to me at the bottom, but they just hired Ryans and have a load of cap, so he's not going anywhere.

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              • ParanoidAndroid
                My battery is low and it's getting dark.
                • Apr 2004
                • 16833

                #22
                Re: kgun's "Where do we go?"....Safety

                He's 33 but Gipson is still playing at a high level and would be super cheap. 5 picks this year.

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                • Historian
                  2020-2023 AFC East Champions!
                  • Dec 2002
                  • 61707

                  #23
                  Re: kgun's "Where do we go?"....Safety

                  What the Bills need, are their current rookies and second year guys to simply play better.

                  When I think of how many rookies made a big impact this year, I get pissed, because our guys aren't cutting it, be it pass rush, blocking, or pass defending.

                  Time to step up.

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                  • kingJofNYC
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                    • Sep 2009
                    • 5960

                    #24
                    Re: kgun's "Where do we go?"....Safety

                    I'd like Poyer back on a 2 year deal but it's not happening. I know they want Benford to step up but lets be ****ing real, he hasn't taken a single snap at the position during an NFL game, they have no way of projecting how he'll do. It's a high risk, boom or bust type decision.

                    It's a tough situation, can say that a lot this offseason.

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                    • kgun12
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                      • Jul 2002
                      • 11315

                      #25
                      Re: kgun's "Where do we go?"....Safety

                      Originally posted by Historian View Post
                      What the Bills need, are their current rookies and second year guys to simply play better.

                      When I think of how many rookies made a big impact this year, I get pissed, because our guys aren't cutting it, be it pass rush, blocking, or pass defending.

                      Time to step up.
                      Here’s another difference between our coaches and others i. e . Reid. McD doesn’t like using rookie so he doesn’t instill confidence in them. Reid drafted 5 rookie DB’s and they all contributed last night. He drafts them and say we need you to come in and play well immediately. McD says step back and learn.

                      How much better off is KC going into next year!
                      Last edited by kgun12; 02-13-2023, 11:17 AM.
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                      • sukie
                        Seriously?
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 21503

                        #26
                        Re: kgun's "Where do we go?"....Safety

                        Bills use rookies? I’m so confused.

                        Rousseau as a rookie and Basham… played a lot. Oliver, Elam, Benford, Shakir, Cook Hamlin all played as rookies

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                        • kgun12
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                          • Jul 2002
                          • 11315

                          #27
                          Re: kgun's "Where do we go?"....Safety

                          Originally posted by sukie View Post
                          Bills use rookies? I’m so confused.

                          Rousseau as a rookie and Basham… played a lot. Oliver, Elam, Benford, Shakir, Cook Hamlin all played as rookies
                          Yes, McD is not comfortable using rookies, it’s pretty much common knowledge
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                          • sukie
                            Seriously?
                            • Sep 2012
                            • 21503

                            #28
                            Re: kgun's "Where do we go?"....Safety

                            Originally posted by kgun12 View Post
                            Yes, McD is not comfortable using rookies, it’s pretty much common knowledge
                            Where have rookies NOT played? Who?

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                            • sukie
                              Seriously?
                              • Sep 2012
                              • 21503

                              #29
                              Re: kgun's "Where do we go?"....Safety

                              Originally posted by kgun12 View Post
                              Yes, McD is not comfortable using rookies, it’s pretty much common knowledge
                              Where have rookies NOT played? Who?

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                              • kgun12
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                                • Jul 2002
                                • 11315

                                #30
                                Re: kgun's "Where do we go?"....Safety

                                Originally posted by sukie View Post
                                Where have rookies NOT played? Who?
                                Do you always like to make stupid comments or just here? Again if you follow this team at all this can’t be the first time you’ve heard McD isn’t comfortable starting rookies!

                                Anyway here are some examples of rookie percentages of playing time:

                                Bills: Chiefs
                                RB Cook 24.79%. Pacheco 35.55% (started the SB)
                                CB Elam 45.39%* McDuffie 59.61% (started the SB) Elam’s % was more to do to injuries.
                                LB Spector 1.47%. DE Karlafris 63.59%

                                Of the rookies that were in KC’s 53 man roster, the lowered percentage of PT was 22.74 % Bills 1.47%.
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