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  • swiper
    Legendary Zoner
    • Sep 2010
    • 33105

    #16
    Re: McDermott to Call Defense in 2023

    Originally posted by DraftBoy View Post
    Be interested to see if that means we’re not going to have a traditional DC to replace Frazier.
    No. That means McDermott is just protecting his buddy Holcomb who will actually be calling the defense.

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    • swiper
      Legendary Zoner
      • Sep 2010
      • 33105

      #17
      Re: McDermott to Call Defense in 2023

      Originally posted by ParanoidAndroid View Post
      It was Frazier's defense. It was not McDermott's defense that Frazier was calling.

      Now it's going to change.
      No. No. And no.

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      • Goobylal
        Registered User
        • Jan 2004
        • 19367

        #18
        Re: McDermott to Call Defense in 2023

        Finally. A couple years too late.

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        • Oaf
          Do you read what you write?
          • Jun 2007
          • 6151

          #19
          Re: McDermott to Call Defense in 2023

          McD called two timeouts before each of KC's two 13sec plays, talked to everyone, and still looked like a fool (I could've made the two passes to get them into FG range). I'm not holding out a lot of hope for playoff success but would love to be wrong.

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          • Woodman
            Legendary Zoner
            • Apr 2014
            • 65916

            #20
            Re: McDermott to Call Defense in 2023

            Originally posted by Forward_Lateral View Post
            It's not surprising, and even though he won't say it publicly, it's pretty clear that by a.) not re-signing Frazer, and b.) announcing that he will be calling the plays, that he's not all that impressed with both the defensive playcalling and performance during Leslie's tenure.

            “It breaks your heart when someone leaves and you don’t know why.”

            "It may be raining but there's a rainbow above you"


            Former President Donald Trump early Thursday touted the results of a new NPR/PBSNewsHour/Marist poll showing him ahead of President Joe Biden by 8 percentage points among independents.

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            • Mace
              Haha...yeah you think so ?
              • Mar 2013
              • 20315

              #21
              Re: McDermott to Call Defense in 2023

              Originally posted by Oaf View Post
              McD called two timeouts before each of KC's two 13sec plays, talked to everyone, and still looked like a fool (I could've made the two passes to get them into FG range). I'm not holding out a lot of hope for playoff success but would love to be wrong.
              Truth. Maybe he finally wants jim johnson defense again. Maybe he doesn't need to take over a diff defense. Maybe. We can hope.

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              • Woodman
                Legendary Zoner
                • Apr 2014
                • 65916

                #22
                Re: McDermott to Call Defense in 2023

                His unpredictable coaching defense .... what's it tough to get things straight for an opponent.

                Huge benefit as I see it ....... he's gonna be far more aggressive DC than Frazier ever was.

                Our opponents will be punting back to us more frequently .... more punts more time for Josh on the playing field and that can't be better for anybody but us.

                “It breaks your heart when someone leaves and you don’t know why.”

                "It may be raining but there's a rainbow above you"


                Former President Donald Trump early Thursday touted the results of a new NPR/PBSNewsHour/Marist poll showing him ahead of President Joe Biden by 8 percentage points among independents.

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                • Mr. Pink
                  Peterman Sucks!
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 35303

                  #23
                  Re: McDermott to Call Defense in 2023

                  It's been his defense since he's been here.

                  It will look exactly the same as it has

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                  • Woodman
                    Legendary Zoner
                    • Apr 2014
                    • 65916

                    #24
                    Re: McDermott to Call Defense in 2023

                    He ran a much more aggressive attack style than Frazier did.

                    It will be very different JMO.

                    In 2015, McDermott’s defense helped lead the way to a 15-1record and trip to Super Bowl 50. Four players – ThomasDavis, Luke Kuechly, Josh Norman and Kawann Short –earned Pro Bowl and All-Pro honors. He was The SportingNews Coordinator of the Year in 2013 as Carolina went 12-4to win the NFC South, their first playoff berth since 2008.He spent his first 12 NFL seasons with Philadelphia, workinghis way up to defensive coordinator in 2009-10. In 2009,he was named the NFL’s top defensive coordinator by ProFootball Weekly.

                    “It breaks your heart when someone leaves and you don’t know why.”

                    "It may be raining but there's a rainbow above you"


                    Former President Donald Trump early Thursday touted the results of a new NPR/PBSNewsHour/Marist poll showing him ahead of President Joe Biden by 8 percentage points among independents.

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                    • Woodman
                      Legendary Zoner
                      • Apr 2014
                      • 65916

                      #25
                      Re: McDermott to Call Defense in 2023

                      A protege of the late Jim Johnson, the Eagles legendarydefensive coordinator, McDermott served as defensiveassistant/quality control coach (2001-02), assistant defensivebacks coach (2003), secondary/safeties coach (2004-06),and linebackers coach (2007-08).He joined the Eagles in 1998 as a scouting administrativecoordinator before being promoted to assistant to the headcoach under Andy Reid in 1999. McDermott worked withseveral Pro Bowlers during his time in Philadelphia, includingHall of Fame safety Brian Dawkins.

                      “It breaks your heart when someone leaves and you don’t know why.”

                      "It may be raining but there's a rainbow above you"


                      Former President Donald Trump early Thursday touted the results of a new NPR/PBSNewsHour/Marist poll showing him ahead of President Joe Biden by 8 percentage points among independents.

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                      • ParanoidAndroid
                        My battery is low and it's getting dark.
                        • Apr 2004
                        • 16839

                        #26
                        Re: McDermott to Call Defense in 2023

                        Originally posted by Mace View Post
                        They're tangled together. If it was entirely Frazier's D...why did McD presume to insert himself into occasionally running it without the exp to do so ?

                        This season will clarify a lot.
                        He picked his DC.

                        I just don't see the departure of both Frazier and the LB that lynch pinned the 4-2-5 as a coincidence.

                        I think the 4-2-5 gets phased out and we get back to playing a 3rd LB.

                        And I think something more resembling the aggression of Carolina's defense, circa 2015-16, is what we get.

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                        • Typ0
                          honey pie
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 32593

                          #27
                          Re: McDermott to Call Defense in 2023

                          Originally posted by ParanoidAndroid View Post
                          He picked his DC.

                          I just don't see the departure of both Frazier and the LB that lynch pinned the 4-2-5 as a coincidence.

                          I think the 4-2-5 gets phased out and we get back to playing a 3rd LB.

                          And I think something more resembling the aggression of Carolina's defense, circa 2015-16, is what we get.
                          Sound logic. Way better than doing the same thing over again that just gets frustrating for everyone.

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                          • Woodman
                            Legendary Zoner
                            • Apr 2014
                            • 65916

                            #28
                            Re: McDermott to Call Defense in 2023

                            Originally posted by ParanoidAndroid View Post
                            He picked his DC.

                            I just don't see the departure of both Frazier and the LB that lynch pinned the 4-2-5 as a coincidence.

                            I think the 4-2-5 gets phased out and we get back to playing a 3rd LB.

                            And I think something more resembling the aggression of Carolina's defense, circa 2015-16, is what we get.
                            Spot on!

                            “It breaks your heart when someone leaves and you don’t know why.”

                            "It may be raining but there's a rainbow above you"


                            Former President Donald Trump early Thursday touted the results of a new NPR/PBSNewsHour/Marist poll showing him ahead of President Joe Biden by 8 percentage points among independents.

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                            • Typ0
                              honey pie
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 32593

                              #29
                              Re: McDermott to Call Defense in 2023

                              Originally posted by Mr. Pink View Post
                              It's been his defense since he's been here.

                              It will look exactly the same as it has
                              I think McDermott is a well organized and focused leader but he doesn't rule with a heavy hand like that. The coaching change signifies some big changes. Frazier is out of the mix they are starting to put together the training camp plan with McDermott making the calls on the defense not being an advisor.

                              That is exactly what he needs to do. Get dirty and figure out what the ****ing problem is and where the difficulty is coming from.

                              Edmunds was great to watch east - west but struggled north - south. We might be a lot better off without a super freak like that.

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                              • notacon
                                Registered User
                                • Aug 2012
                                • 32999

                                #30
                                Re: McDermott to Call Defense in 2023

                                Originally posted by ParanoidAndroid View Post
                                He picked his DC.

                                I just don't see the departure of both Frazier and the LB that lynch pinned the 4-2-5 as a coincidence.

                                I think the 4-2-5 gets phased out and we get back to playing a 3rd LB.

                                And I think something more resembling the aggression of Carolina's defense, circa 2015-16, is what we get.
                                I think the opposite is true. The Bills will rely on the secondary to make up for the loss of Edmunds. The game has passed the logic of using three LB’s. Safeties fill the role of LB's in McDermott’s defense.

                                It’s all about defending against the pass, which was Edmunds strong suit. His length and speed prevented many passes from even being thrown.

                                The biggest issue last year was the devastating (and unlucky) state of the whole secondary due to injuries. Some facts courtesy of Tim Graham of The Athletic:

                                • The Bills’ secondary deployed 12 different starting lineups over 18 games, including the playoffs;
                                • Their most consistent starting lineup was four straight games, ending with Hamlin’s cardiac arrest in Week 17;
                                • Bills defensive backs made their first start of the year in Weeks 10, 12, 13 and 18;
                                • Twelve defensive backs started for Buffalo. By comparison, each of the teams that reached its conference title game used seven starters all season.


                                KC, Cincy, Philly and SanFran started just four CB’s and three safeties apiece, the Bills started six CB’s and six safeties.

                                The Bills started the same group in consecutive games only twice before week 15. Their most common crew was a still-unsteady White, perimeter CB Jackson, nickel back Johnson and safeties Poyer and Hamlin.

                                That quintet lasted four weeks. In a game with seeding implications, Buffalo inserted Dean Marlowe into the starting lineup for the regular-season finale against the NE Pats and for both playoff games. He’d never started in the postseason, playing only eight defensive snaps over four games.

                                A clue as to how patchwork Buffalo’s secondary was at the end, Marlowe remains unemployed. The Bills traded a seventh-round draft choice for him in November as their secondary eroded.

                                Milano is still there and is locked in for several more seasons. It’s still unknown if they will draft one of the two LB’s that have any chance of coming close to replacing Edmunds, Drew Sanders and Jack Campbell.

                                Sanders is the only one that is worth a late first round pick, and if a worthy WR is there at #27, the Bills would probably be better off forgoing Sanders and giving Allen more weapons.

                                Campbell is not worth a first-round pick. Either trade back from #27 or trade up from #59 to get him.

                                The Bills are built on the concept of 4-2-5 and there is little reason (or even close to the talent) to go backwards to a 4-3-4.

                                It does not make any sense, especially considering the reality of the AFC having the most elite QB’s and dynamic passing offenses.

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