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  • swiper
    Legendary Zoner
    • Sep 2010
    • 33105

    #61
    Re: RB Damien Harris a Bill

    Originally posted by Woodman View Post
    He's not a dancer he's a pounder :
    This is the difference between the two.

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    • sukie
      Seriously?
      • Sep 2012
      • 21527

      #62
      Re: RB Damien Harris a Bill

      Originally posted by swiper View Post
      That's the same thing they said about Singletary.
      That’s what they said about Travis Henry. Hits the hole Fast and hard …………..AND OFTEN.

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      • notacon
        Registered User
        • Aug 2012
        • 33060

        #63
        Re: RB Damien Harris a Bill

        Jim Kelly says that Josh Allen could benefit from a “star RB”.


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        • Woodman
          Legendary Zoner
          • Apr 2014
          • 65987

          #64
          Re: RB Damien Harris a Bill

          A Star RB that has blocking ability is what I'd hope for.

          No more free path to QB.

          Loud me up with as many quality OL has possible.

          “It breaks your heart when someone leaves and you don’t know why.”

          "It may be raining but there's a rainbow above you"


          Former President Donald Trump early Thursday touted the results of a new NPR/PBSNewsHour/Marist poll showing him ahead of President Joe Biden by 8 percentage points among independents.

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          • Goobylal
            Registered User
            • Jan 2004
            • 19371

            #65
            Re: RB Damien Harris a Bill

            Need a RB who is a great runner, receiver and blocker. How many of them are there?

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            • notacon
              Registered User
              • Aug 2012
              • 33060

              #66
              Re: RB Damien Harris a Bill

              Originally posted by Goobylal View Post
              Need a RB who is a great runner, receiver and blocker. How many of them are there?
              Not many.

              Bijan Robinson is one.

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              • Goobylal
                Registered User
                • Jan 2004
                • 19371

                #67
                Re: RB Damien Harris a Bill

                Originally posted by notacon View Post
                Not many.

                Bijan Robinson is one.
                Theoretically. I remember that many thought CEH was as well. I'm not prepared to spend a 1st rounder to find out the hard way.

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                • notacon
                  Registered User
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 33060

                  #68
                  Re: RB Damien Harris a Bill

                  Originally posted by Goobylal View Post
                  Theoretically. I remember that many thought CEH was as well. I'm not prepared to spend a 1st rounder to find out the hard way.
                  NFL professionals disagree with you. The Athletic posted a mock draft that contained coaches (and scouts) analysis of each first round pick they mocked.

                  Bijan Robinson was mocked to go in the top 10....to Philly...

                  The Coaching Intel


                  “Oh my goodness. That kid is unbelievable. Has great vision. Size. Power. He will block. I can’t say enough great things about him. He should’ve left three years ago. He’s so big and strong. He’s going to be an incredible NFL player.”


                  “His stop-start is pretty special. It’s something you might see in a smaller back, but he’s got that mass and he can run through you. He is impressive. Really good receiver. He’s a bad matchup for a linebacker.”


                  “He’s so compact! Has patience and great change of direction and change of speed. When the ball is in hands he is elite. Their O-line looked the part, but they weren’t very good in front of him. They were young and so inexperienced. Movement would hurt ‘em. He is great though.”


                  “I think he was the best player in college football. Watch him. I get why NFL teams aren’t picking a running back in the top five, but man, he’s physical. He has good long speed and is selfless. They used him to block on the perimeter and pass protection and he’s an elite route-runner. He is elite elite.”
                  It would be a miracle if Robinson is there for the Bills at #27. He is going to be as much a sure thing as is possible, and one team is going to be very happy and blessed to get him.

                  If by chance a miracle does take place, the Bills would be foolish to not seriously consider taking him at #27.

                  I know that YOU are not “prepared to spend a 1st rounder” on him, and thank God you do not make that decision.

                  Comparing Bijan Robinson to CEH is like comparing Kyle Trask to Trevor Lawrence. Or better yet, Saquon Barkley to Rashad Penny.

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                  • Goobylal
                    Registered User
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 19371

                    #69
                    Re: RB Damien Harris a Bill

                    Originally posted by notacon View Post
                    NFL professionals disagree with you. The Athletic posted a mock draft that contained coaches (and scouts) analysis of each first round pick they mocked.

                    Bijan Robinson was mocked to go in the top 10....to Philly...



                    It would be a miracle if Robinson is there for the Bills at #27. He is going to be as much a sure thing as is possible, and one team is going to be very happy and blessed to get him.

                    If by chance a miracle does take place, the Bills would be foolish to not seriously consider taking him at #27.

                    I know that YOU are not “prepared to spend a 1st rounder” on him, and thank God you do not make that decision.

                    Comparing Bijan Robinson to CEH is like comparing Kyle Trask to Trevor Lawrence. Or better yet, Saquon Barkley to Rashad Penny.
                    I've seen that description for many RBs coming out over the 3+ decades I've been watching football. The last time was...Barkley who I guess you compared to Kyle Trask (because Rashad Penny hasn't rushed for more than 749 yards in a season because he can't stay healthy). And a RB is dependent on his OL. I'd focus on that first because a better OL also helps Josh.

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                    • Woodman
                      Legendary Zoner
                      • Apr 2014
                      • 65987

                      #70
                      Re: RB Damien Harris a Bill

                      Robinson will be gone by 27 IMO.

                      Strengthen the OL first.

                      If he is there by some weird set of events then I'm sure we'd consider him.

                      “It breaks your heart when someone leaves and you don’t know why.”

                      "It may be raining but there's a rainbow above you"


                      Former President Donald Trump early Thursday touted the results of a new NPR/PBSNewsHour/Marist poll showing him ahead of President Joe Biden by 8 percentage points among independents.

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                      • justasportsfan
                        Registered User
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 71599

                        #71
                        Re: RB Damien Harris a Bill

                        Originally posted by swiper View Post
                        That's the same thing they said about Singletary.
                        You have a lot of articles that says that? He danced to make people miss is what I know and heard which is why Moss was the short yardage rb.
                        sacrifice1
                        https://theinterviewwithgod.com/video/

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                        • tomz
                          Registered User
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 1786

                          #72
                          Re: RB Damien Harris a Bill

                          I’m very positive on the Harris signing. I think he’s just what we needed.

                          What do you think about Darnell Washington (the TE—multiple Darnell’s out there). Sometimes described as like having an an extra tackle and definitely a huge red Zone threat. I like him in the first—won’t last to our pick int he second.

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                          • notacon
                            Registered User
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 33060

                            #73
                            Re: RB Damien Harris a Bill

                            Originally posted by Goobylal View Post
                            I've seen that description for many RBs coming out over the 3+ decades I've been watching football. The last time was...Barkley who I guess you compared to Kyle Trask (because Rashad Penny hasn't rushed for more than 749 yards in a season because he can't stay healthy). And a RB is dependent on his OL. I'd focus on that first because a better OL also helps Josh.
                            I’m not talking about or in any way value what “description for many RBs coming out over the 3+ decades I've been watching football”

                            Totally irrelevant.

                            WHAT IS relevant is how an individual player is judged in relation to others in that draft year, and what expected position he may be drafted.

                            Your example of Clyde Edwards-Helaire is a poor one because NO ONE expected him (or thought he was worth) a first-round pick.

                            I was curious and did some research. In the final mock drafts of 2020 of five well known publications and professional NFL analysts, NONE of them had Clyde Edwards-Helaire in the first round.

                            Interestingly, one of them had the Chiefs picking a RB at #32, but it was for Jonathan Taylor, not CEH. Another had them picking D'Andre Swift.

                            Both would have been slam dunk grand slam picks and much, MUCH better than CEH.

                            Two of the mocks had no RB in the 1st round. The other that had another team besides the Chiefs, also had D'Andre Swift, at #26 to Miami.

                            Mel Kiper’s “Final top 300 position rankings, Big Board” ranked CEH at #46, and only the FOURTH ranked RB.

                            CEH was widely seen as a day two prospect at best. Just because KC made a bad choice (taking CEH the first RB off the board, leaving much better prospects Jonathan Taylor, D'Andre Swift, Cam Akers and even J.K. Robbins) does not mean that the expectation of Bijan Robinson’s extraordinary skill set is in any way incorrect.

                            Additionally, the RB’s drafted in the first round the past 10 years have a much lower “bust” rate than QB’s.

                            Najee Harris - #24
                            Travis Etienne - #25
                            CEH - #32
                            Josh Jacobs - #24
                            Saquon Barkley - #2
                            Rashad Penny - #27
                            Sony Michel - #31
                            Leonard Fournette - #4
                            Christian McCaffrey - #8
                            Ezekiel Elliot - #4
                            Todd Gurley - #20
                            Melvin Gordon - #15

                            The list of QB’s taken in the first round that are busts is long….and almost always high picks….

                            Zach Wilson - #2
                            Dwayne Haskins - #15
                            Baker Mayfield - #1
                            Sam Darnold - #2
                            Josh Rosen - #10
                            Mitch Trubisky - #2
                            Carson Wentz - #2
                            Paxton Lynch - #26
                            Jameis Winston - #1
                            Marcus Mariota - #2
                            Blake Bortles - #3
                            Johnny Manziel - #22
                            Teddy Bridgewater - #32
                            EJ Manuel - #16


                            Those RB’s drafted in the top half of the first round have a “bust rate” of ZERO, unlike QB’s which is pretty close to 50%

                            Bijan Robinson is ranked the #1 RB and within the top 10 of ALL players by every well respected analyst….

                            Scouting Inc - #6 overall.
                            Mel Kiper’s Big Board - #9 overall
                            Todd McShay’s top 32 prospects - #6 overall
                            Sporting News Big Board - #6 overall
                            Daniel Jeremiah’s top 50 - #3 overall
                            CBS Sports Ranking - #7 overall
                            Pro Football Network Big Board - #6 overall
                            Fox Sports 100 best available players - #5 overall
                            The Athletic Big Board - #7 overall

                            They are all saying the same thing. Listen to them!!!

                            The NY Times published a fascinating analysis that found “When Draft Pundits are right, and NFL teams are wrong….An analysis shows that teams usually misfire when they ignore analysts and make a surprise pick early in the first round

                            Ignoring literally ALL the analysts in the unique value of Bijan Robinson is a BIG mistake.

                            I very much doubt NFL teams are going to make that mistake and allow him to fall to #27.

                            If they DO, by some miracle, the Bills would be foolish to not seriously consider taking him.

                            He is going to be a superstar in the NFL.

                            Book it!!
                            Last edited by notacon; 04-03-2023, 01:44 PM.

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                            • Woodman
                              Legendary Zoner
                              • Apr 2014
                              • 65987

                              #74
                              Re: RB Damien Harris a Bill

                              Originally posted by notacon View Post
                              He is going to be a superstar in the NFL.

                              Book it!!
                              Agreed!

                              “It breaks your heart when someone leaves and you don’t know why.”

                              "It may be raining but there's a rainbow above you"


                              Former President Donald Trump early Thursday touted the results of a new NPR/PBSNewsHour/Marist poll showing him ahead of President Joe Biden by 8 percentage points among independents.

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                              • Woodman
                                Legendary Zoner
                                • Apr 2014
                                • 65987

                                #75
                                Re: RB Damien Harris a Bill

                                Originally posted by Woodman View Post
                                Robinson will be gone by 27 IMO.

                                Strengthen the OL first.

                                If he is there by some weird set of events then I'm sure we'd consider him.
                                Damn he went 8th holy crap.

                                “It breaks your heart when someone leaves and you don’t know why.”

                                "It may be raining but there's a rainbow above you"


                                Former President Donald Trump early Thursday touted the results of a new NPR/PBSNewsHour/Marist poll showing him ahead of President Joe Biden by 8 percentage points among independents.

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