Mike Greenberg loses it on Josh Allen Comment

**sukie** · 12-06-2023, 05:10 PM

Re: Mike Greenberg loses it on Josh Allen Comment

I saw it on YouTube earlier. Kinda shocking but dead on.

**OpIv37** · 12-06-2023, 06:43 PM

Re: Mike Greenberg loses it on Josh Allen Comment

Don’t want to be disrespected? Win games.

**sukie** · 12-06-2023, 06:46 PM

Re: Mike Greenberg loses it on Josh Allen Comment

Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post

Don’t want to be disrespected? Win games.

He won the Philly game and the Broncos game.

**OpIv37** · 12-06-2023, 09:15 PM

Re: Mike Greenberg loses it on Josh Allen Comment

Originally posted by sukie View Post

He won the Philly game and the Broncos game.

Standings say otherwise.

**BuffaloBlitz83** · 12-06-2023, 10:41 PM

Re: Mike Greenberg loses it on Josh Allen Comment

Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post

Standings say otherwise.

You're so annoying. We know for dam sure if the bills offense was scoring 13 points a game and the d was winning games and we were 8-4 You'd still be ****ting on the bills.

**OpIv37** · 12-07-2023, 09:46 AM

Re: Mike Greenberg loses it on Josh Allen Comment

Originally posted by BuffaloBlitz83 View Post

You're so annoying. We know for dam sure if the bills offense was scoring 13 points a game and the d was winning games and we were 8-4 You'd still be ****ting on the bills.

First that will never happen. During the drought, we had plenty of years where we had great defense and no offense, and the best it ever got us was 9-7. Defense can't win games in the modern NFL.

Second, your premise is absurd. You made up a scenario, then guessed how I would have reacted if your fake scenario was real. Gimme a ****ing break.

Third, this team deserves to be **** on. We were preseason SB favorites. Instead, we're probably not even going to make the playoffs, and if we do, the SB is a virtual impossibility because it will mean winning 3 road games. Josh's numbers against Philly and Denver didn't get us wins. Stats don't get us into the playoffs. Josh could throw for 1000 yards and score 100 points every game- it doesn't matter if the D gives up 1100 yards and 101 points.

**sukie** · 12-07-2023, 10:27 AM

Re: Mike Greenberg loses it on Josh Allen Comment

Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post

Standings say otherwise.

Josh does nothing on defense.

**OpIv37** · 12-07-2023, 10:27 AM

Re: Mike Greenberg loses it on Josh Allen Comment

Originally posted by sukie View Post

Josh does nothing on defense.

It doesn't matter. Stats don't get us into the playoffs.

**sukie** · 12-07-2023, 10:33 AM

Re: Mike Greenberg loses it on Josh Allen Comment

But Josh didn’t lose those 2 games. They were won. D couldn’t close them out. Not admitting that fact is myopic.

**OpIv37** · 12-07-2023, 10:55 AM

Re: Mike Greenberg loses it on Josh Allen Comment

Originally posted by sukie View Post

But Josh didn’t lose those 2 games. They were won. D couldn’t close them out. Not admitting that fact is myopic.

Look, it's simple:
When the team wins, people will focus on Allen's gaudy offensive stats.
When the team loses, people will focus on the turnovers.

Josh played really well against Philly and it would be really difficult to argue that his 1 turnover cost us the game when the D played so poorly. But you could argue that if he DIDN'T make that one mistake, we would have won despite the poor defensive play. So, that's what people are focused on. Is it fair? No. But he's the face of the franchise and one of the best QB's in the NFL. When the team isn't winning, he's the one under the microscope.

**sukie** · 12-07-2023, 11:26 AM

Re: Mike Greenberg loses it on Josh Allen Comment

Why does the D get a pass?

If Buffalo wins Sunday and say 1 pick each side… do we start hearing about picks thrown by Mahomes losing 4-6 games?

**Mace** · 12-07-2023, 05:28 PM

Re: Mike Greenberg loses it on Josh Allen Comment

Originally posted by sukie View Post

Why does the D get a pass?

If Buffalo wins Sunday and say 1 pick each side… do we start hearing about picks thrown by Mahomes losing 4-6 games?

D shouldn't get a pass no, but while the Bills have prime Allen, the perception will always be that we should have gotten more points. You even hear McDermott echo that with his side eye offense comments while deflecting from his D, the general perception out there is that Allen is having an MVP season, and then it flatlines on 6-6.....and then it comes back to his turnovers because our poor D is struggling with injuries, not like a defensive guru couldn't find solutions.

Is it right ? No. But that's the perception. Some are homing in on McDermott finally, but Allen is the easy target.

**YardRat** · 12-07-2023, 05:37 PM

Re: Mike Greenberg loses it on Josh Allen Comment

The offense under-achieved in every game the team has lost, except for Philadelphia.

Far be it from me to defend a defense I have been criticizing as over-rated for several seasons, but all of those games...and a couple of wins...shouldn't have come down to make or break on the last play of game and wouldn't have if Josh wasn't turning the ball over and the offense was putting points on the board like they should.

**sukie** · 12-07-2023, 05:44 PM

Re: Mike Greenberg loses it on Josh Allen Comment

Originally posted by YardRat View Post

The offense under-achieved in every game the team has lost, except for Philadelphia.

Far be it from me to defend a defense I have been criticizing as over-rated for several seasons, but all of those games...and a couple of wins...shouldn't have come down to make or break on the last play of game and wouldn't have if Josh wasn't turning the ball over and the offense was putting points on the board like they should.

Still doesn’t excuse the Denver loss. D blew it.