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DIFFERENCE IN THE BILL'S AND CHEIFS .....very simple..
Reid could not win a SB with McNabb, or Alex Smith....both stints with stellar rosters. 21 years of HC and no SB wins UNTIL Mahomes came along.
Josh is better than McNabb and Smith and just as good as Mahomes. A QB on his own doesn't win SBs and no one would take the Bills' OCs and McD over Reid and Spags.
Re: DIFFERENCE IN THE BILL'S AND CHEIFS .....very simple..
The Chiefs have done a better job of managing their roster and they have better coaching. Maybe it simply is because McDermott is early career and Reid is on the cusp of entering the relic stage ... but that presence is so strong it works better with a young whipper snapper than what McDermott brings to Allen.
The Chiefs are in a position to grow right now as well....while we are gonna have to weather some storms at least this year. The Tyreek Hill trade really hurt us KC is so much better for doing that.
Re: DIFFERENCE IN THE BILL'S AND CHEIFS .....very simple..
Chiefs had a better team against the Bills period. They are not that far apart to the point where there can be stretch of times the Bills played better than them. I will even contest the notion Mahomes really played better than Allen, this season, or the playoff game. I'm talking about overall performance of the game. You can single out plays Allen didn't make like the end of the game. But I can counter there are plays Mahomes didn't make earlier in the game that could make the game not reachable by the end.
The Chiefs have Kelce, Jones, Sneed, McDuffie other than the QB playing at all-pro level, at times HoF taking-over-the-game level. Who the Bills got besides Allen? I remember Cook had the Dallas game on that level, but nothing else. Jones was reportedly playing on one leg in the Bills playoff game and he still made impact. Von didn't do squat.
Re: DIFFERENCE IN THE BILL'S AND CHEIFS .....very simple..
The thing is, all of the KC guys I listed above, included departed Hill, are drafted by them, and only McDuffie was a 1st round pick - a late 1st pick at that. Everyone else is 2nd round or later. Where do the Bills stack up here? The closest ones to that caliber are resource intensive acquisition in terms of picks (Diggs) and cap (Von).
Josh is better than McNabb and Smith and just as good as Mahomes. A QB on his own doesn't win SBs and no one would take the Bills' OCs and McD over Reid and Spags.
Nope.
Josh is NOT "just as good as Mahomes". What lame homerism.
Does not mean that Josh cannot get better and reduce the gap between him and Mahomes. Once he learns to make better decisions at the most crucial moments in the playoffs, he will win some SB's.
Josh is "just as good" as Joe Burrow....but neither of them is on the level of Mahomes.
Even then, at the end of each of their careers, there is NO DOUBT that Patrick Mahomes will be widely considered (like he is accurately today considered the head and shoulders best QB in the NFL) the better QB. Just like Tom Brady is considered the better QB than Peyon Manning.
Josh is NOT "just as good as Mahomes". What lame homerism.
Does not mean that Josh cannot get better and reduce the gap between him and Mahomes. Once he learns to make better decisions at the most crucial moments in the playoffs, he will win some SB's.
Josh is "just as good" as Joe Burrow....but neither of them is on the level of Mahomes.
Even then, at the end of each of their careers, there is NO DOUBT that Patrick Mahomes will be widely considered (like he is accurately today considered the head and shoulders best QB in the NFL) the better QB. Just like Tom Brady is considered the better QB than Peyon Manning.
Yeah he is. Again what Mahomes has is better coaching. No one would dispute this.
Now if the Bills were getting blown out by the Chefs instead of barely losing to them, you'd have a point. But they aren't so you don't.
The thing is, all of the KC guys I listed above, included departed Hill, are drafted by them, and only McDuffie was a 1st round pick - a late 1st pick at that. Everyone else is 2nd round or later. Where do the Bills stack up here? The closest ones to that caliber are resource intensive acquisition in terms of picks (Diggs) and cap (Von).
Picked 21st overall.
We took Elam 23rd overall.
“It breaks your heart when someone leaves and you don’t know why.”
"It may be raining but there's a rainbow above you" Former President Donald Trump early Thursday touted the results of a new NPR/PBSNewsHour/Marist pollshowing him ahead of President Joe Biden by 8 percentage points among independents.
Did you know that Allen doesn't have a single 4th quarter comeback or game winning drive in the post season? Or that Josh has yet to win a single game in OT?
McD/Allen has a longer way to go before hoisting than it appears on paper, imo.
The New England Patriots received pick Nos. 29 (first round), 94 (third), 121 (fourth) in exchange for the 21st pick.
With the 29th overall pick, the Pats selected Chattanooga guard Cole Strange.
“It breaks your heart when someone leaves and you don’t know why.”
"It may be raining but there's a rainbow above you" Former President Donald Trump early Thursday touted the results of a new NPR/PBSNewsHour/Marist pollshowing him ahead of President Joe Biden by 8 percentage points among independents.
The thing is, all of the KC guys I listed above, included departed Hill, are drafted by them, and only McDuffie was a 1st round pick - a late 1st pick at that. Everyone else is 2nd round or later. Where do the Bills stack up here? The closest ones to that caliber are resource intensive acquisition in terms of picks (Diggs) and cap (Von).
Draft 2022
McDuffie was pick 21 overall and Karlaftis 30 overall they had 2 first rounders in the 2022 draft.
They traded up with the Patriots to get McDuffie at 21 that year.
“It breaks your heart when someone leaves and you don’t know why.”
"It may be raining but there's a rainbow above you" Former President Donald Trump early Thursday touted the results of a new NPR/PBSNewsHour/Marist pollshowing him ahead of President Joe Biden by 8 percentage points among independents.
Re: DIFFERENCE IN THE BILL'S AND CHEIFS .....very simple..
Woodman, thanks to bring Karlaftis' name up. I didn't included Karlaftis in my listed of the KC players because I don't think he played at the level of those, at least this season.
I agree that he trends to be a good player, somewhat resembling the trajectory of of Rousseau's career at year 2 but McDuffie is already there in year 2.
But again, my point is the big picture. McDuffie is the part result of the Hill trade. That's exactly what a team like KC should do, and I might add, Beane should've done when he gave Diggs all those money.
Woodman, thanks to bring Karlaftis' name up. I didn't included Karlaftis in my listed of the KC players because I don't think he played at the level of those, at least this season.
I agree that he trends to be a good player, somewhat resembling the trajectory of of Rousseau's career at year 2 but McDuffie is already there in year 2.
But again, my point is the big picture. McDuffie is the part result of the Hill trade. That's exactly what a team like KC should do, and I might add, Beane should've done when he gave Diggs all those money.
pure speculation on my part, but i always felt that McDuffie was the Bills target and they panicked when he was taken
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