PSLs… Who is buying?

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • notacon
    Registered User
    • Aug 2012
    • 32991

    #91
    Re: PSLs… Who is buying?

    Originally posted by TheConsigliere View Post
    Go do your own research on Kim’s education and business experience.

    Then get back to me.

    I did. I stand by my opinion.

    Comment

    • TheConsigliere
      Registered User
      • Aug 2022
      • 2680

      #92
      Re: PSLs… Who is buying?

      Originally posted by kgun12 View Post
      No but the most successful team, the clueless owner hires sport specific knowledge people and gets out of the way.
      B-I-N-G-O!!!

      Comment

      • kgun12
        Registered User
        • Jul 2002
        • 11315

        #93
        Re: PSLs… Who is buying?

        Can you all imagine how muck these PSL’s and individual ticket prices would be if it was a dome?!!!
        Retired Air Traffic Controller
        USAF VETERAN
        DAV

        Comment

        • kgun12
          Registered User
          • Jul 2002
          • 11315

          #94
          Re: PSLs… Who is buying?

          Originally posted by kgun12 View Post
          Can you all imagine how muck these PSL’s and individual ticket prices would be if it was a dome?!!!
          Nita, this is not meant as a gift towards you, just an observation.
          Retired Air Traffic Controller
          USAF VETERAN
          DAV

          Comment

          • notacon
            Registered User
            • Aug 2012
            • 32991

            #95
            Re: PSLs… Who is buying?

            Originally posted by kgun12 View Post
            No but the most successful team, the clueless owner hires sport specific knowledge people and gets out of the way.

            The Bills have done that.

            Comment

            • ckg927
              Not quite Best in the World....
              • Aug 2012
              • 21103

              #96
              Re: PSLs… Who is buying?

              Originally posted by notacon View Post
              The Bills have done that.

              I'd argue that the Bills LUCKED their way into getting Beane & McDermott.

              By comparison, look at who the Sabres have hired(and fired).

              If you want a successful franchise in the Pegula portfoilo, go look at the NLL's Buffalo Bandits. Their GM is not afraid to make deals to improve the team as needed(AND he's played the game as well; Buffalo was one of the teams he played for). They draw very well and have for some time. Winning a championship(as they did in 2023)will help increase their visibility. (Full disclosure: I've been a STH for well over a decade.)
              John Hemingway(facing certain death): I want to see Buffalo win the Super Bowl.
              David Coltrane(threatening John): Nobody's going to live that long, pal.


              -The John Larroquette Show, "A Dark and Stormy Night", 4/12/94

              Comment

              • Typ0
                honey pie
                • Jul 2002
                • 32592

                #97
                Re: PSLs… Who is buying?

                Originally posted by kgun12 View Post
                Can you all imagine how muck these PSL’s and individual ticket prices would be if it was a dome?!!!
                That's why they said the dome wasn't feasible ... because all the whiners who want to play football inside aren't the ones who are going to be paying for the dome ...

                The PSLs are a one time money grab though. They end up being a fixed asset. You can sell them. So the Bills fan who can afford a second beach house and corporate america is who they are going for.

                And they just need to sell a PSL on a seat ONE TIME in the lifetime of the stadium and their numbers work out.

                And now that few or no one here can afford season tickets .... whammo they have more disposable income available to pay for individual tickets.

                They've got a sliding scale of outpriced ex season ticket holders to now fill up their stadium purchasing tix they were not yet able to sell a PSL on.

                These people are doing their research and found out the price sensitivity was too high to build a dome and it would end up losing money by never selling a PSL and leaving that cash grab empty.

                Comment

                • jamze132
                  Registered User
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 29290

                  #98
                  Re: PSLs… Who is buying?

                  Originally posted by kgun12 View Post
                  Can you all imagine how muck these PSL’s and individual ticket prices would be if it was a dome?!!!
                  Might be worth it then.

                  Comment

                  • notacon
                    Registered User
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 32991

                    #99
                    Re: PSLs… Who is buying?

                    Originally posted by ckg927 View Post
                    I'd argue that the Bills LUCKED their way into getting Beane & McDermott.

                    By comparison, look at who the Sabres have hired(and fired).

                    If you want a successful franchise in the Pegula portfoilo, go look at the NLL's Buffalo Bandits. Their GM is not afraid to make deals to improve the team as needed(AND he's played the game as well; Buffalo was one of the teams he played for). They draw very well and have for some time. Winning a championship(as they did in 2023)will help increase their visibility. (Full disclosure: I've been a STH for well over a decade.)
                    I already said, I don't give a rat's ass about the Sabres. Their problems are long running and the NHL is NOT anything close to the NFL.

                    "LUCKED their way into getting Beane and McDermott"?!?!? I doubt that very much. Of course there is always an amount of "luck" in the NFL. The Pegula's, after stumbling for a little bit like the new owners they were, made excellent hires in McD and then Beane, and gave them the keys to the football operation and deferred to their expertise. No leaks of them meddling...AT ALL!!!

                    What is critical is what the Pegula's did AFTER hiring McD & Beane. The result has been one of the most successful NFL franchises in the game today....after being (mostly) the laughingstock of the NFL for almost all their 50+ year of existence. Even the handful of successful years were ****ed up by a meddling, awful owner who invented a power struggle with the (up until that time) best GM the Bills ever had in Bill Polian.

                    Keep in mind that signing draft picks was a LOT more difficult in those days because there was no rookie contract limitation like today. There was no cap either. Bill Polian built a winner despite those challenges. Wilson was, at heart, a cheapskate bastard and everyone knew that he hated paying players the big bucks they deserved.

                    Even after the cap, in the early 2000's Wilson instituted the absurd "cash to cap" baloney. He also pimped the Bills out to Toronto.

                    There was a power struggle between Bill Polian and Ralph Wilson's bean counter, Jeffrey Littmann, who was treasurer of Wilson's Detroit based business. Of course, Wilson's lackey won and instead of leaving his stupid ignorant hands off the football operations, he gave Littmann, who had less football knowledge than anyone here, immense power.

                    That power struggle and Littmann's bean counter mentality is what led to the "drought".

                    The Pegula's had a completely different mindset. After they hired McD and Beane, they went out of their way to defer to their judgment and their successful path to bring the Bills back to respectability....and then some!

                    Anyway, the absurd idea that the Bills are somehow a failure because they have not yet won a Super Bowl with Josh Allen and that reflects badly on Kim Pegula is beyond stupid.

                    A reminder that since Josh came into the league, five of those six years only one of TWO QB's have won a Super Bowl. Two of the GOAT'S...Brady and Mahomes. Only ONE team without either of them has won a title. The main reason why the other team, LA Rams, won one was because Mahomes had one of the rarest events in his career....a bad playoff game vs Cincy.

                    The three passes Mahomes made in OT, culminating with the game sealing INT, may be the worst three consecutive passes Mahomes has had in his career.


                    Those fans that want to turn up their arrogant noses at the amazing success the Bills have enjoyed the past five years, accomplishing what 30 other teams can only dream of....5 consecutive playoff berths and 4 consecutive division titles, only bested by one team....because they have not YET won a Super Bowl, and denigrate the Pegula's and in particular Kim Pegula, are insufferable bores.

                    Comment

                    • Historian
                      2020-2023 AFC East Champions!
                      • Dec 2002
                      • 61705

                      Re: PSLs… Who is buying?

                      Comment

                      • sukie
                        Seriously?
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 21503

                        Re: PSLs… Who is buying?

                        PSL question.

                        with all these foreign soil games. PSL peeps get shafted home games and it got me wondering.

                        the PSL gives the owner the right to purchase seasons for that seat(s).

                        what if they choose not to purchase 10 years from now cuz they lost 2 home games to Lichtenstein and the Ivory Coast.

                        are they forced to buy ? Are they forced to sell the remaining 20 years of the PSL ? Are those seats just sold as singles ?
                        can there be 2 PSLs per seat?

                        Comment

                        • Historian
                          2020-2023 AFC East Champions!
                          • Dec 2002
                          • 61705

                          Re: PSLs… Who is buying?

                          Off topic....For sale on Ebay: 1960 Bills schedule

                          Comment

                          • notacon
                            Registered User
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 32991

                            Re: PSLs… Who is buying?

                            Originally posted by sukie View Post
                            PSL question.

                            with all these foreign soil games. PSL peeps get shafted home games and it got me wondering.

                            the PSL gives the owner the right to purchase seasons for that seat(s).

                            what if they choose not to purchase 10 years from now cuz they lost 2 home games to Lichtenstein and the Ivory Coast.

                            are they forced to buy ? Are they forced to sell the remaining 20 years of the PSL ? Are those seats just sold as singles ?
                            can there be 2 PSLs per seat?
                            Other PSL contracts have a requirement to actually buy season tickets to retain it.

                            You do not purchase a season ticket in any year, you lose the PSL.

                            Period.

                            Comment

                            • sukie
                              Seriously?
                              • Sep 2012
                              • 21503

                              Re: PSLs… Who is buying?

                              Originally posted by notacon View Post
                              Other PSL contracts have a requirement to actually buy season tickets to retain it.

                              You do not purchase a season ticket in any year, you lose the PSL.

                              Period.
                              So the financed PSL would still be paid for but you lost right to use it.

                              Comment

                              • notacon
                                Registered User
                                • Aug 2012
                                • 32991

                                Re: PSLs… Who is buying?

                                Originally posted by sukie View Post
                                So the financed PSL would still be paid for but you lost right to use it.

                                Yep.

                                Comment

                                Working...
                                X