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  • DetoxTent
    Registered User
    • Sep 2023
    • 762

    #16
    Re: First 2 picks...

    Originally posted by YardRat View Post
    A) OC Jackson Powers-Johnson, Oregon... S Kamren Kinchens, Miami

    B) S Cooper Dejean, Iowa...WR Xavier Legette, South Carolina

    C) DT Byron Murphy II, Texas...Edge Chris Braswell, Alabama

    D) WR Adonia Mitchell, Texas...DT Leonard Taylor III, Miami

    E) ??????
    LOL. You're laying awake at night thinking about this, aren't ya?

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    • DraftBoy
      Administrator
      • Jul 2002
      • 107452

      #17
      Re: First 2 picks...

      Originally posted by Bill Cody View Post
      28 Adonai Mitchell, WR TX
      60 Javon Bullard, S Ga
      I’d take that.
      COMING SOON...
      Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
      We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!

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      • sahlensguy
        Registered User
        • Mar 2015
        • 13467

        #18
        Re: First 2 picks...

        Originally posted by DraftBoy View Post
        I’d take that.
        Adonai Mitchell, while a different receiver, has a similar grade that Gabe Davis had, who was drafted in the 4th round, with similar weaknesses: takes plays/games off, limited yac, doesn't care to block etc. I see the upside but the value isn't there with him at 28, for me. Boom/bust player.

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        • YardRat
          Well, lookie here...
          • Dec 2004
          • 86161

          #19
          Re: First 2 picks...

          Originally posted by DetoxTent View Post
          LOL. You're laying awake at night thinking about this, aren't ya?
          No, not at all. Actually I've put far less time into this off-season than I usually do.
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          • DraftBoy
            Administrator
            • Jul 2002
            • 107452

            #20
            Re: First 2 picks...

            Originally posted by sahlensguy View Post
            Adonai Mitchell, while a different receiver, has a similar grade that Gabe Davis had, who was drafted in the 4th round, with similar weaknesses: takes plays/games off, limited yac, doesn't care to block etc. I see the upside but the value isn't there with him at 28, for me. Boom/bust player.
            No, he doesn’t have a similar grade.

            He definitely doesn’t like to block, but he’s a dynamic WR with great athleticism who should be there at 28. Also runs strong routes, had strong hands and can both play deep down the field and underneath.
            COMING SOON...
            Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
            We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!

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            • sahlensguy
              Registered User
              • Mar 2015
              • 13467

              #21
              Re: First 2 picks...

              Originally posted by DraftBoy View Post
              No, he doesn’t have a similar grade.

              He definitely doesn’t like to block, but he’s a dynamic WR with great athleticism who should be there at 28. Also runs strong routes, had strong hands and can both play deep down the field and underneath.
              6.20 vs 6.35 grades per NFL.com.

              I would'nt say Mitchell runs strong routes. He can be sloppy and his game strength is underwhelming.

              I think he'll be a true RedZone threat. He knows how to get seperation. And he has shown up in big moments, like Gabe. But he'll disappear too, like Gabe.

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              • Bill Cody
                Registered User
                • Sep 2004
                • 11890

                #22
                Re: First 2 picks...

                Originally posted by sahlensguy View Post
                Adonai Mitchell, while a different receiver, has a similar grade that Gabe Davis had, who was drafted in the 4th round, with similar weaknesses: takes plays/games off, limited yac, doesn't care to block etc. I see the upside but the value isn't there with him at 28, for me. Boom/bust player.
                Davis and Mitchell are 2 very different players. Davis is a strong blocker, has great size but not great speed and drops the ball a lot. Mitchell is fast as well as quick but he's still a taller receiver and he has sure hands. No he's not much of a blocker but neither was Diggs. I posted a video earlier that showed every play he was involved in last season. Yes please.

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                • YardRat
                  Well, lookie here...
                  • Dec 2004
                  • 86161

                  #23
                  Re: First 2 picks...

                  I would like B, Dejean and Legette, but the more mocks I do Cooper is gone closer to 20 and I keep seeing DT Murphy at the top of the list.
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                  • sahlensguy
                    Registered User
                    • Mar 2015
                    • 13467

                    #24
                    Re: First 2 picks...

                    Originally posted by YardRat View Post
                    I would like B, Dejean and Legette.
                    This is good value.
                    No trade ups.

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                    • sahlensguy
                      Registered User
                      • Mar 2015
                      • 13467

                      #25
                      Re: First 2 picks...

                      Originally posted by Bill Cody View Post
                      Davis and Mitchell are 2 very different players. Davis is a strong blocker, has great size but not great speed and drops the ball a lot. Mitchell is fast as well as quick but he's still a taller receiver and he has sure hands. No he's not much of a blocker but neither was Diggs. I posted a video earlier that showed every play he was involved in last season. Yes please.
                      Mitchell and Davis are different receivers but Mitchell is graded simialarly and has similar production. Red zone threat. Produces in big moments. But is a soft route runner and admitts to not running at 100% . Takes plays off. Poor game strength. I thought he caught with his body? Not so much with his hands. Davis was a 4th round pick. The 1st round is too high for Mitchell.

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                      • Woodman
                        Legendary Zoner
                        • Apr 2014
                        • 65912

                        #26
                        Re: First 2 picks...

                        Originally posted by YardRat View Post
                        I would like B, Dejean and Legette, but the more mocks I do Cooper is gone closer to 20 and I keep seeing DT Murphy at the top of the list.
                        Would love both.

                        To get Legette we may need to move up in the 2nd if he's still available.

                        Much cheaper than moving up in the 1st.

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                        • sahlensguy
                          Registered User
                          • Mar 2015
                          • 13467

                          #27
                          Re: First 2 picks...

                          Originally posted by Woodman View Post
                          Would love both.

                          To get Legette we may need to move up in the 2nd if he's still available.

                          Much cheaper than moving up in the 1st.
                          Legette is a mismatch type of player that we rearely have. He'd be worth trading up for in the 2nd. Depends if we draft a wr in the 1st though.

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                          • Woodman
                            Legendary Zoner
                            • Apr 2014
                            • 65912

                            #28
                            Re: First 2 picks...

                            Originally posted by sahlensguy View Post
                            Legette is a mismatch type of player that we rearely have. He'd be worth trading up for in the 2nd. Depends if we draft a wr in the 1st though.
                            100%

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                            Former President Donald Trump early Thursday touted the results of a new NPR/PBSNewsHour/Marist poll showing him ahead of President Joe Biden by 8 percentage points among independents.

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                            • sahlensguy
                              Registered User
                              • Mar 2015
                              • 13467

                              #29
                              Re: First 2 picks...

                              Originally posted by Woodman View Post
                              100%

                              Gonna be a fun week for every football junkie.
                              It's a big reason I don't want a wr in the 1st. For one, the value isn't there at 28. For two, a trade up requires assets we can't afford. And for three, it limits taking the many wr later who do have good value further down.

                              I would like Legette in the 2nd and maybe trade up in the 3rd for Johnny Wilson.

                              Use 28 on a DB, DL or Center.

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                              • Bill Cody
                                Registered User
                                • Sep 2004
                                • 11890

                                #30
                                Re: First 2 picks...

                                Originally posted by sahlensguy View Post
                                Mitchell and Davis are different receivers but Mitchell is graded simialarly and has similar production. Red zone threat. Produces in big moments. But is a soft route runner and admitts to not running at 100% . Takes plays off. Poor game strength. I thought he caught with his body? Not so much with his hands. Davis was a 4th round pick. The 1st round is too high for Mitchell.
                                Davis ran a 4.54 40. Those guys can slip to the 4th. The 4.34 guy? Not so much. if a player didn't have any warts he'd be top 10.

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