Exactly nothing. He couldn't be more wrong. A kid plays hockey his whole life for the hopes he gets one chance to play for his favorite team. IF, IF he gets that chance he seizes upon it. You clowns have to get over this incorrect notion that Terry Pegula is the only onel that can pay Vesey the money he wants.Originally Posted by Yasgur's Farm
Please quote the post that somebody here said that
Or if it's multiple posts please point those out.
Unless, of course, you are the clown making **** up.
Again
yanklovver (07-19-2016)
I don't think anyone believes that.
What the sabres can offer vesey is a spot on a very young team that is about to become one of the better teams in the conference. Vesey can step right in and accelerate that. If the allure of playing for the home team is too much, so be it. Or playing for Toronto where he has family ties.
It's not the end of the world of he doesn't sign. Buffalo is still tending up and boston is still trending down.
The college free agent loophole must be addressed
Taking all of this information, speculation and inborn Buffalo pessimism into account, while bracing myself for the inevitable disappointment, there's just one thing that doesn't make sense to me, and that I can't ignore.
The Eichel factor.
Not so much that they'd be great line mates or that it would be a comfort for Vesey to walk into a locker room with a familiar face.
The thing that keeps me from completely shutting down all hope is the idea of Murray doing this without any kind of heads-up from either Eichel or his (also Vesey's) agent.
That's the part of this that makes no sense to me.
Whether it's a 30 second phone message that goes something like "Jack....it's Tim Murray. Is your buddy Jimmy dead set on playing for his hometown team, or should I make a run at him? Call me back." or a text from Eichel to Murray "TM, it's Jack. If u go after Vesey, he'll sign."
I just find it hard to believe that something like this didn't happen in advance.
I'm 99% sure he'll be a Bruin. But I just can't close the book.
Crazy but accurate.
Post 176.
Try to keep up.
Last edited by Yasgur's Farm; 07-20-2016 at 08:51 AM.
Skooby (07-20-2016)
my post was 176. and swiper is assuming that kids just want to play for their hometown team. that's what fans want.
kids who are groomed to play professional hockey have worn a lot of jerseys and have gotten over the fan aspect of it. I think they respect the NHL team they rooted for. but if he is immature and just wants to play for his hometown team, his advisors should be tipping off the fact that money is equal at all the team with his entry level contract.
he needs to put himself in a situation where he can make money at RFA time or Unrestrictred FA time. Being in boston at this time is a gamble. perhaps he wants to take that. but Toronto, buffalo and Chicago has more star power, more chance to be viewed as a key cog and more likely to get a bigger payout than a team that listlessly seems to be moving along. his stats should look better on the other 3 teams.
Skooby (07-20-2016),WagonCircler (07-20-2016),Yasgur's Farm (07-20-2016)
Yup...
I think both you guys are right. First off, you are exactly right that Vesey should put his homerism aside and consider what is best for his career. In that case, Boston might not be the best choice. In fact, I'm not sure what the best choice would be. Which of these teams if any will be still ascendant or with whom will he strike the best stats by the time his entry-level contract runs out or when he becomes UFA? It's hard to tell. Will he be able to consider his options objectively? That would be a tall order for anyone much less a 23-year-old with stars and dollar signs in his eyes.
On the other hand, there is little precedent that I know of for the situation. It would be like if the Heisman Trophy winner could negotiate with any team. Would OJ have signed with the 12-2 Cowboys, the 13- Colts, or the hometown Niners who sucked but were on the rise?
And Jatm is right: the college free agent loophole must be addressed. And you can bet your bottom dollar that once it is the best player will be a Sabres fan.
Last edited by gebobs; 07-20-2016 at 09:33 AM.
Lehner's history. He just doesn't know it yet.
JATMtheJATM (07-20-2016),trapezeus (07-20-2016)
Some other recent collegiate free agents...
Mike Reilly, grew up in Minnesota, signed with the Wild.
Justin Schultz, grew up in BC, signed with the Oil, but then they did him a favor and sent him to the Pens.
Kevin Hayes, Boston native, signed with the Rags, plays in the same league as Vesey and Eichel over the summer.
Tyler Bozak, from Regina SK, signed with the Leafs.
Torey Krug, Michigan native, signed with the Bs.
JATMtheJATM (07-20-2016)
Well then it looks like Vesey is a Bruin.
How many of them lived up to the hype. All are pretty good, but none are stars.
Also, while not drafted, Danny dekeyser signed with the wings after growing up in michigan.
Red wings fans thought he was the second coming of lidstrom
Last edited by JATMtheJATM; 07-20-2016 at 10:59 AM.
Why?
Schultz - Edmonton is not in British Columbia... It's in Alberta. Vancouver would be hometown team.
Hayes - Obviously the Rangers are not in Boston
Bozak - Saskatchewan would consider Edmonton or Winepeg as hometowns before Toronto
Krug - How do you consider a Michigan native calling Boston hometown.
That tells me 80% of that list signed outside of their hometown influence.
WagonCircler (07-20-2016)
And actually... Mike Reily was born in Chicago. Can you say Blackhawks?
That makes 5 of 5... 100%
Bozak: Some Canadian teams have wide ranging and inter-regional fanbases. Certainly, the Leafs and the Habs. There are probably as many Leafs fans as senators fans in Ottawa. It's not any more surprising to find Leaf fans in Vancouver as it is to find native Buffalonians who are die-hard Raiders fans. He was never drafted.
Reilly: Yes, he was born in Chicago but he bled Gopher maroon and gold. He grew up in Minnesota and played his entire amateur career there (with the exception of one year playing Junior A in BC). Went to Minnesota like his two older brothers and his father. At any rate, no surprise he didn't want to go to Columbus. Does Buffalo have enough to attract Vesey? I wonder.
Schultz: Drafted by Anaheim but they couldn't sign him. He was courted by 26 teams but the Oilers sent Gretzky and Coffey to woo him. Though Kelowna is closest to Vancouver, at the time he was growing up, the Canucks sucked.
Hayes: He was probably a Bs fan growing up. Drafted by Chicago and didn't want to get buried there. Apparently, he was swayed to sign with NY by former mate Chris Kreider. Chicago got a compensatory pick for him. Any chance we get one? Wouldn't be much I guess since he was a 3rd rounder.
Krug: Can't imagine that he was a Bruins fan.
Score...
Definite homers: Reilly
Not homers: Krug, Hayes
Who knows: Bozak and Schultz
There's hope yet.
WagonCircler (07-20-2016),Yasgur's Farm (07-20-2016)
Now that makes a lot more sense gebobs than drawing the conclusion that it's a done deal for Boston.
Are we not including dekeyser?
That is what you want. That is not what he wants. He said as much. But you just keep dreaming stuff up that makes you happy.
Posting Permissions
Reply With Quote
